Interesting for sure.

This video is worth the watch. Interesting..

Which "religious fundamentalists" groups do you find acceptable?

How do you define "religious fundamentalists"?

Nazi Germany wanted to transform the subjective consciousness of the German people, their attitudes, values and mentalities into a single-minded, obedient "national community". The Nazis believed they would therefore have to replace class, religious, and regional allegiances.

You must not know many Mormons.

That's far out there. Lets bring it back to earth please.

Y'all need to read up on this nasty, corrupt LaBaron family. They've been living in Mexico since the 1920's so they could get away w/multiple wives (the leader had 13 wives & 50 children), killing people & molesting under-aged girls. They're disgusting & the women that were killed were all part of it.

I was simply referring to the term that has been used by the media to describe the group.

Here's a small bit of their crap story:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ervil_LeBaron

The video I posted explains them pretty well too, interviews some of them.

Exactly. The family has lived there for 100 years, long before this level of cartel violence has been an issue in Mexico.

As has been said, Dan, it has been reported that they were polygamists. Did that have something to do with their murder? Were they murdered because they were polygamists? If so, that’s a very important part of the story. Otherwise, it’s background to the story and an explanation of who they were, not why they were murdered.

But, it’s been widely reported that they were polygamists, and had duel citizenship, and the Wikipedia page was posted here in the original thread on this, I believe.

Why do you care that they were polygamists? Because you find it immoral? Because that’s the vibe I’m getting here. You find it immoral and it needs to be mentioned to satisfy your objection to it. I don’t condone polygamy, but murder is pretty far ahead of letting people practice whatever religion they believe in of things I object to, especially when children are murdered.

The family has lived there for 100 years. And, sure, they chose to live in a dangerous place. They did not deserve to be murdered. If they were Mormons who didn’t practice polygamy, but chose to live there, would you be so flippant about it?

100% agree. Nasty history. I don’t see the polygamy/Mormon being the story here, except that Dan objects to it and the media “not reporting it,” when it’s been reported.

Focus in the family history and the violence they’ve committed and the cartel violence. But those kids and women, as far as I know, didn’t deserve to be killed because they’re polygamists.

I'd be willing to bet that this hit has more to do with the fact that the Federales have a headquarters inside of their Morman Community, and are pretty much allies against the cartels. Did you see what they just did to the policeman that arrested El Chapo's Son? Was reported they shot him 155 times. This was no case of mistaken identity.

I don't remember where I first heard this story, but they were described as a Mormon community that moved to Mexico to practice polygamy.

That's just a fun fact, I don't think it explains why they were murdered. I have a friend that is from about an hour or so from where this happened. He tells me that the area isn't that dangerous. There is cartel violence, but it isn't random or indiscriminate. He is convinced the Mormons were either in business with or against the cartel.

Or they simply didn't cooperate in some way. It doesn't take much.

In 2017 25 per 100,000 inhabitants of Mexico were murdered. Was there outrage from the American media on many of those?

I'll wait.

That’s not including the “missing”.

I know a few Mormons, but not any of these "fundamentalists", I only know them through the news. They are not the same "breed" as a Mormon, the news stories are always full of stuff a real Mormon would not be involved it.

Agreed. It’s a footnote.

Is cartel violence a new story to you? Surely, you’ve read about it before. Unless it was only in the Mexican press. Spend a lot of time reading the Mexican newspapers?

Do you think all religion is a cult, or just Mormonism?

I think my neighbor has a few wives. He's a great guy.

Mormonism you should read up on it's founder.

There is one god. The god.of the Bible. There is one way to heaven Jesus Christ. All others are false idols and cults.

No I'm very aware of cartel violence genius. Which is why this murder doesn't move the needle for me anymore or less than any other. Those folks ain't Americans.

If I choose to go cave exploring in the beautiful mountains of Afghanistan and get my head sawed off don't morn.

The LaBaron family and the drug cartels have a violent history with each other. That is pretty much all there is to this story.

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That would be a reason for targeting right there...

I’m a Christian. I’m aware of Mormonism and it’s practices. I don’t think their religion, at least based on what I’ve read so far, was the reason for their murders. I also am not going to say any religion that doesn’t believe the same thing I do is a cult.

Obviously you’re aware of the violence in Mexico. That’s why I asked how you knew. Unless you read the Mexican press, you must’ve heard about it from the American press, genius.

It seems like you and Dan both have an issue with Mormons and that it goes against your beliefs, and that’s just not a part of the story for me, because I don’t care.

Innocent people were murdered. Mormon, Christian, Jehova’s witness, agnostic, I just don’t care. Unless something comes out about the victims specifically, I don’t see the need to harp on their religion or why we disagree with it in this case. And I don’t support polygamy.