Last season. 303 British, 30/30, 6mm, 300WM, 30-06, 270, 44mag, 308 I’m sure that I’m forgetting one.... drives a few friends crazy..... different gun every hunt.. before I get a bunch of questions... yes I hunted MLDP.

And why I had a disclaimer at the top of my post. The 270 had a meteoric rise to prominence similar to what the creedmore is currently experiencing. Introduced in a rifle that was referred to as the riflemans rifle and given a very credible stamp of approval by Jack O’Connor it was the darling of its day and remains a mainstay. It’s not as good as the also 30-06 based 280. Not much difference In dia from .277 to .284. With a 270 for the most part you are limited to 130-150 grain projectiles. Loading for 280, a readily available selection of 120-175 grain projectiles has existed for a long time.
Just sayin

If the 270 is overrated don't tell the 800 million animals that have succumbed to it. lol
The most overrated caliber I have ever owned is by far the 45-70. Everything I ever shot with it ran off a long ways before falling. I read where an African PH said more animals lost to the 45-70 than any other caliber, not sure why.

Most people pick a load and stick with it in a given caliber.

If they need a heavier load most change rifles not bullets

Most often it isn't the caliber of the rifle, it is the caliber of the person behind the trigger.

Folks around here talk like deer are hard to kill and their tuff ness has increased 10 fold over the last few decades.
And pigs, wholly smokes, they are armor plated beasts like some mythical mini rhinoceros on steroids wearing bullet proof hide.


I hunt grizz with a .22 wmr.

In the end most of this stuff is just fun Internet forum talk.....these discussions are not like the ones we have with our buddies over a few beers while we watch college football, where experience and knowledge are recognized and understood. On the World Wide Web any nameless, faceless poster may join or even start the discussion, regardless of their level of first hand knowledge.
Do you think the 270 is superior to the 280?

I always wonder when people tout the effectiveness of a caliber by mentioning how many hogs they kill with it.

I was always taught to shoot hogs below the ear. I also kill a lot of hogs with a .22 LR

8 in the 257wby, all on animals also

5 on 6.5 CM, all on animals

Do they even have 8 different loads for a .257 wby?

300BLK also preforms exceptionally well for recoil sensitive kids. 125 gr SST is a good deer and pig round out to 150 yards.



YES!!

You haven't tried 72-73g Retumbo then. Not that tough.

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.

Yes
100 Spire
100 spritzer
80 TTSX
100 TSX
110 AB
100gr partition
120 gr partition
115vld


Honady has a 117 sst I think also

If you apply the above logic towards a 243 or even 223 you may change your mind.

Holy Smokes, you guys badmouthed just about everything in my gun safe except for the 30:06 and I gave that to my grandson.

I'll go with shot placement using any 1" moa rifle.

Interesting Bobo. All from 1 rifle or multiple?

I am impressed with the amount of time that you have available to test that many different loads! Between kids and work, if I want to work up a new load, it takes me almost a year to load, test, load, re-test, and then hunt with them!

Most of those are all OTC loads(all sub moa ore better except spritzer and AB) minus the 115vld(both hand loads)

Bull frog -Two, but most from one.

Most people state the something as the “best” because that’s what they use or read, not on what they have actually tried against each other. I tinker a bunch, gear included.


It’s like the exploding bullet statement made on here. Out of all those loads I have exploded one (bullet combo) out of a close to a hundred animals with all the bullets stated above, 115vld loaded hot at almost 3400. I had two bullets actually blow up at the skin level with minimal penetration on a Pronghorn. At 3250 ft/s no more issues and lots of chin thumps to the grounds. Could of been a lot issue or speed/jacket integrity issue. Regardless a true skin level failure

My second favorite load is 80gr ttsx true lazer but energy drops sharply at 300 yards. And third is the 100gr partition

243 I’ll take the 80 gr TTSX it nasty medicine “if” your gun likes them.

^This man knows

I shot an antelope at over 700yds in the late eighties with a 257 Weatherby, I would call it far from over rated

30'06 was my favorite cartridge for years, but it is a kicking sob, the 300 WSM will do everything that it can do and with a ton less felt recoil

My list
Creedmoor anything
Nosler Anything
30'06
338 Lapua
338 Federal

I have several of those on my list in the safe

.204, even 40 grain, is hell on cats and foxes but sub par on coyotes.

Come again?

Sure the WSM does whatever the 30-06 does, but it doesn't recoil less at all, actually more.

I'd say... of the calibers I have owned... and for being overrated for whitetail deer...

30-30 - not very accurate compared to what else is available and only acceptable for close range. Crazy how many times I hear it is recommended as a first deer rifle.
223 - I had a buddy who wanted to hunt deer with 223 on my property. Told him he'd have to find a bigger caliber or use one of my rifles. It'll take down a deer with proper shot placement, but we can't always except optimal shooting conditions. Makes me cringe when I hear people talking about hunting whitetail with 223.
243 - This was the caliber of my first deer rifle. Certainly works and is accurate, but personally I feel it's a tad on the light side. Not as forgiving as larger calibers. One of my best buds uses it with great success though I'd prefer he use a larger caliber. To give him credit... he's dropped all the deer he's taken on my place with it.
300 blk - same as 30-30. Maybe a little more accurate, but not good for anything other than close range. Personally I feel it's only good for those who want a quiet round when shooting suppressed at close range. Fun caliber though.
30-06 - I grew up hunting with 30-06 and hunted Africa twice with it. Great caliber and certainly enough stopping power for whitetail... but the recoil made it hard to be a consistent shooter. I think my success with it was due to it being more forgiving. Not a great caliber for beginners in my opinion because of the recoil. Still love the cartridge but there are many others available now that'll do the job with less recoil.

Over rated.

17 HMR, the 22 magnum is far better for what I need.

6.5 Creedmoor, Not a durned thing it can do that many older cartridges haven't been doing just fine for years but if it replaces the semi worthless 243 that would be a good thing.

243 Winchester works fine if you treat it like a 223 but when you start using it like a real deer cartridge the tracking begins.

300 Blackout, What for?

280 Remington Not one thing it can do better than the 30-06 or 270.