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TOP 5 OVER RATED CARTRIDGES #7655369 11/07/19 10:55 PM
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Given The opinions on the under rated cartridge thread, I think we need a over rated cartridge list.

Let's see your list! popcorn

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300 WM & 7 Mag







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Originally Posted by DLALLDER
300 WM & 7 Mag


To each his own. I have killed animals all over the world with 300 WM. Rarely do they not drop in their tracks. If it ain't broke don't fix it is my motto

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Originally Posted by DLALLDER
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The .300 win mag is pretty much universally recognized as one of the most versatile cartridges in existence

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.30-30 Winchester- it was fine when model T’s were the only form of automobile transportation, but thankfully travel has advanced and so has the cartridge world. It’s slow, sloppy and shoots all over the place.

7mm Rem mag - lot of recoil and muzzle blast for what you get at the other end the barrel. If you don’t mind the recoil just move up to the .300 win mag.

.223 Remington - why would anyone want a 3rd place .22 centerfire? The .22-250 is vastly superior in performance

.308 Winchester- I wish the movie “ shooter” had never come out. It’s perfectly adequate but people talk about it likes it’s the second comming

6.5 creedmoor- See above.

.243 Winchester - too sporadic of performance on deer yet it continues to be pushed. This is a round that needed to be put out to pasture a long time ago


Yes I know I named six cartridges

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It all depends on the application as to what is "overrated", IMO.

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Originally Posted by txtrophy85
.30-30 Winchester- it was fine when model T’s were the only form of automobile transportation, but thankfully travel has advanced and so has the cartridge world. It’s slow, sloppy and shoots all over the place.

7mm Rem mag - lot of recoil and muzzle blast for what you get at the other end the barrel. If you don’t mind the recoil just move up to the .300 win mag.

.223 Remington - why would anyone want a 3rd place .22 centerfire? The .22-250 is vastly superior in performance

.308 Winchester- I wish the movie “ shooter” had never come out. It’s perfectly adequate but people talk about it likes it’s the second comming

6.5 creedmoor- See above.

.243 Winchester - too sporadic of performance on deer yet it continues to be pushed. This is a round that needed to be put out to pasture a long time ago


Yes I know I named six cartridges


Lol I still hunt with 4 of those on occasion lol.

I do prefer the 22-250 over the 223. I also prefer the 222 over the 223 for nostalgia reasons though.

I love grabbing a set of horns and going on a walk about with 30-30


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I am not sure about "overrated", but here is my list of "completely unnecessary" cartridges.

1. 26, 28 and 30 Nosler (I know that is 3, but they are all in the same boat).
2. 257 Weatherby Mag., unless of course having bullets blow up on game is your thing.
3. 338 Winchester Mag. - with today's bullets, a heavy 30 caliber or 7mm bullet will do the same job with less recoil.
4. .220 Swift - unless, of course, you like to burn up barrels for very little performance gain
5. .270 Winchester - again, with today's powders and bullets, you can get much better ballistics and terminal performance in a short action.


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Disclaimer: I know you can take every cartridge on my list and go kill stuff

1) .223- I love shooting it. It is anemic as a military round. Same thing as a hunting round. A nice varmint round.

2) 270- I have killed several truck loads of animals with a 270. Although it never failed to get the job done, due to limited available bullet selection, I view the 280 as superior. The 270 surpasses it in popularity but only due to a lot of favorable press and the model 70 Winchester.

3) .243-kills stuff plenty dead but on game I like a heavier slug.

4) .257 Roberts- never saw what people went so gaga for back in the day, other than a catchy name.

5) (tie) 30-30- immensely popular due to the era of the lever guns that were most often chambered for it. My first deer rifle was a Winchester 94. It still works but it’s time has passed. If not for lever guns, it would have faded into obscurity long ago.

5) (tie) 300 blackout-way too anemic for my taste. Only place I see it performing well is loading subs for ultra quiet suppressed plinking.

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Originally Posted by HandgunHTR
I am not sure about "overrated", but here is my list of "completely unnecessary" cartridges.


2. 257 Weatherby Mag., unless of course having bullets blow up on game is your thing.



pulled 110 grain Nosler accubond slugs out of Elk, Aoudad, and Mule Deer....never had one blow up.

the .257 wby mag is one most useable magnum cartridges ever created. Light recoil and 7mm rem. performance. The ballistics out to 400 yards is incredible. Yes, if you shoot a soft bullet then it will come apart....but the availability of bonded bullets has all but nullified that.


As far as the .270 is concerned, yes, with moden powders and bullet weights you can get .270 performance and ballistics from a round like a 7mm-08.

But with modern powders and Bullets you can get .270 wby performance out of a .270 Winchester and stomp any short action out to any reasonable hunting range. I still think a stock .270 outperforms a 6.5 creed out to somewhere ridiculous range like 700 yards.

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Well, here’s where we find out who does and doesn’t understand what overrated means.


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Anything SAUM, RUM or WSM.
Anything Blackout, SPC or Grendel.
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.25 - 06
.475 A&M mag

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Originally Posted by HandgunHTR
I am not sure about "overrated", but here is my list of "completely unnecessary" cartridges.


2. 257 Weatherby Mag., unless of course having bullets blow up on game is your thing.
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Interesting thought process backed up by exploding partitions?


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6.5 creedmoor, its accurate but I have not been impressed on the wound channel it creates compared to older calibers.

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1. 223/5.56
2. 308
3. 6.5
4. 6.8
5. 7 mag
6. 300 b.o.

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definitely an interesting few threads, interesting opinions

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Originally Posted by Legend LE-195
6.5 creedmoor, its accurate but I have not been impressed on the wound channel it creates compared to older calibers.


You are probably correct, I remember about 2000 I went into a gun store and there were a bunch of 7mm magnums on the used rack. I ask the owner why?!?!?! He said “everybody wants the 300wsm”... turns out the 270 and 300wsm are great rounds..... but.... now if you want to kill a whitetail it’s going to take a Creedmoor or Nosler to get the job done.

Don’t tell anybody about the prc huh?

Bad news..... I’ll be hunting with many of the cartridges listed in this thread.... this weekend will be a 30-06 and a Remington 6mm. I hope I don’t have to call one of y’all to come finish of the deer with your 7mm-08!


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Originally Posted by txtrophy85


the .257 wby mag is one most useable magnum cartridges ever created. Light recoil and 7mm rem. performance. The ballistics out to 400 yards is incredible. Yes, if you shoot a soft bullet then it will come apart....but the availability of bonded bullets has all but nullified that.



Negative. Never seen or heard of a .257 launching a 160 grainer 3100fps?

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the .257 wby mag is one most useable magnum cartridges ever created. Light recoil and 7mm rem. performance. The ballistics out to 400 yards is incredible. Yes, if you shoot a soft bullet then it will come apart....but the availability of bonded bullets has all but nullified that.



Negative. Never seen or heard of a .257 launching a 160 grainer 3100fps?



The Weatherby will get there quicker but the lighter, lower BC bullets give up about 20% in ft/lbs out past 300 yards... However- when I have my fast twist .257 put together... 131gr @ 3400 will outperform the standard 7/160 combo in velocity, wind drift and energy. But then bump the 7 up to a 180 @ 2900 and it wins again.

I wouldn't say the Bee- is overrated though.

What comes to mind with overrated is--
1. 26 nosler
2. 6.8spc
3. Any WSSM
4. 350 Legend
5. .17wsm

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the .257 wby mag is one most useable magnum cartridges ever created. Light recoil and 7mm rem. performance. The ballistics out to 400 yards is incredible. Yes, if you shoot a soft bullet then it will come apart....but the availability of bonded bullets has all but nullified that.



Negative. Never seen or heard of a .257 launching a 160 grainer 3100fps?


I've never seen of a 7mm launching a 160 grain bullet at 3100 fps. Nosler lists a speed of 2925 fps for the 160 grain accubond load.

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I only know which caliber is the most over hyped on this forum.....300 bacon or pork chop I can’t remember but geeez enough with the infomercial.


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6.5 creedmore my sons use hammeres them. 143 grain no typical ammo. At 85 to 100yrds its nearly ripped her should off on the exit with low recoil. I think its am amazing youth caliber.

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My goodness. I thought overrated would trip some people up. Apparently, ballistics is even worse.


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2) 270- I have killed several truck loads of animals with a 270. Although it never failed to get the job done, due to limited available bullet selection, I view the 280 as superior. The 270 surpasses it in popularity but only due to a lot of favorable press and the model 70 Winchester.


Just sayin’

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How many different bullets are all of you actually shooting?

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