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Deer Hunting Dilemma #7639195 10/22/19 09:13 PM
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My neighbor got into a deal this morning that I had never heard of before. He shot a legal buck bow hunting. The deer jumped and turned and ran. He ran into a smaller buck that was not legal. When he ran into the second deer it killed the second deer also. He said since it wasn't legal he left it. What was he supposed to do? I said he should have called the Game Warden, explained what happened and see if he wanted him to bring it in to be donated to the food bank or whomever they gave them to. Tell me what you would have done.


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I call bs on a deer running into another deer and it dying

He prolly shot thru the first deer and hit another


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First i would ask what alcohol or drugs was involved.... we need more on how this happened lol.

Im not ar county so I would have tagged it and got on down the road after some picture taking head scratching etc.

IF in an AR county and IF it really happened that way i'd call the GW and get it sorted.


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If the story is true which I highly doubt, and it happened to me I would tag the deer I killed......I would not be responsible for the deer my deer killed; I guess the game warden would have to write a citation to the buck I killed for killing an illegal buck without a hunting license......


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Hmmmm....deer are so wound up I can't imagine a scene where the one buck couldn't get out of the way of another buck. That is what they do...get out of the way of danger.


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Re: Deer Hunting Dilemma [Re: machinist] #7639219 10/22/19 09:31 PM
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Honestly?

I would have tagged my deer, removed the backstraps from the other deer to eat at camp, and drug the rest of it into the brush for the predators.


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I know my neighbor pretty well and he says that was what happened. He has been deer hunting more years than most of you are old.
I absolutely believe him. He said it broke the smaller deer's neck


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If he was 100% honest, I would have tagged the first deer and called the Game Warden immediately and gotten advice. Then I would have taken pics and dressed my deer and followed whatever the GW said to do.


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Originally Posted by QuitShootinYoungBucks
If he was 100% honest, I would have tagged the first deer and called the Game Warden immediately and gotten advice. Then I would have taken pics and dressed my deer and followed whatever the GW said to do.


+1

Why in the heck would you leave a deer carcass without contacting a Game Warden?

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Game warden would have let him have it or donate to a needy family, what a waste. I call BS on the story.......... bs

Re: Deer Hunting Dilemma [Re: machinist] #7639296 10/22/19 11:03 PM
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IF the incident happened the way it was portrayed....the hunter has no obligation (legally) to call the game warden. Deer and other wild animals die from accidents/mishaps all the time.

But...IF the hunter was concerned that the meat resource was being wasted (it wasn't.... since predators/scavengers have to eat too) then a call to the game warden would be appropriate. You might find yourself being asked some questions, depending on the warden involved.

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If no harm or foul by hunter I would of called the GW.

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Originally Posted by Nogalus Prairie
Honestly?

I would have tagged my deer, removed the backstraps from the other deer to eat at camp, and drug the rest of it into the brush for the predators.



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I would say that there is no legal obligation on behalf of the hunter to do anything at all for the deer he didn't kill.

That said, if the second deer's neck was broken and there was no puncture wounds that could be mistaken for an arrow/bullet, I would call the GW so that some needy family gets some venison.

If there were any puncture wounds at all, I would leave it for scavengers. While we may live in a country where one is innocent until proven guilty, the system has a tendency to treat us as guilty until proven innocent. And I simply wouldn't want to deal with the hassle of trying to explain to a GW how I didn't shoot the deer and how that puncture wound was not caused by me - and hoping he believed me. If the responses on THIS thread shows anything - it's that making someone else believe this fluke incident happened the way you said it did is an uphill battle - the likely default position is going to be that you're telling a lie. With no legal obligation, why even risk consequences if you don't have to.

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Originally Posted by Binary
I would say that there is no legal obligation on behalf of the hunter to do anything at all for the deer he didn't kill.

That said, if the second deer's neck was broken and there was no puncture wounds that could be mistaken for an arrow/bullet, I would call the GW so that some needy family gets some venison.

If there were any puncture wounds at all, I would leave it for scavengers. While we may live in a country where one is innocent until proven guilty, the system has a tendency to treat us as guilty until proven innocent. And I simply wouldn't want to deal with the hassle of trying to explain to a GW how I didn't shoot the deer and how that puncture wound was not caused by me - and hoping he believed me. If the responses on THIS thread shows anything - it's that making someone else believe this fluke incident happened the way you said it did is an uphill battle - the likely default position is going to be that you're telling a lie. With no legal obligation, why even risk consequences if you don't have to.

I agree with this. I have no problem calling the game warden if there are no punctures in the second deer.

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I always like the threads where people’s first thought is to call the game warden. That’s just what I want to do while I’m putting my deer in the cooler is listen to what a warden thinks about what just happened on my property.

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If he was 100% honest, I would have tagged the first deer and called the Game Warden immediately and gotten advice. Then I would have taken pics and dressed my deer and followed whatever the GW said to do.


+1

Why in the heck would you leave a deer carcass without contacting a Game Warden?

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It sounds like the second deer died from non-hunting accident, no different than when any of us walk up on a carcass tangled in a fence or hit one with a truck.

Unless it's harvested there's no need for a Game Warden. The moment anything is harvested, then it either needs a tag or a Game Warden.

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Originally Posted by TrophySites
It sounds like the second deer died from non-hunting accident, no different than when any of us walk up on a carcass tangled in a fence or hit one with a truck.

Unless it's harvested there's no need for a Game Warden. The moment anything is harvested, then it either needs a tag or a Game Warden.


×2 based on the information. Stuff happens. We ain't the judge or jury. We didn't stop when hitting one with truck last week. Now if he wants to get the GW involved to take it or donate it, then I have no issue with the GW being contacted. But they have zero obligation to if they want to feed the buzzards.

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Originally Posted by Nogalus Prairie
Honestly?

I would have tagged my deer, removed the backstraps from the other deer to eat at camp, and drug the rest of it into the brush for the predators.



My first thought as well



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There are a number of different options that could have been done if this ever happened. Calling a game warden would not be anywhere near my list.

No reason to have to explain yourself to the game warden and probably to a judge as well over one wasted deer.



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Originally Posted by machinist
I know my neighbor pretty well and he says that was what happened. He has been deer hunting more years than most of you are old.
I absolutely believe him. He said it broke the smaller deer's neck


If you know your neighbor that well and he has been hunting longer than most of us are old then he should know what TPWD game laws are and what to do in that situation.

First tag the deer he shot then immediately call the game warden and explain what happened and follow his instructions on what to do with the other deer.


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Yep, grilled back straps back at camp that night.


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I think your neighbor needs to learn to shut up.

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Originally Posted by Binary
I would say that there is no legal obligation on behalf of the hunter to do anything at all for the deer he didn't kill.

That said, if the second deer's neck was broken and there was no puncture wounds that could be mistaken for an arrow/bullet, I would call the GW so that some needy family gets some venison.

If there were any puncture wounds at all, I would leave it for scavengers. While we may live in a country where one is innocent until proven guilty, the system has a tendency to treat us as guilty until proven innocent. And I simply wouldn't want to deal with the hassle of trying to explain to a GW how I didn't shoot the deer and how that puncture wound was not caused by me - and hoping he believed me. If the responses on THIS thread shows anything - it's that making someone else believe this fluke incident happened the way you said it did is an uphill battle - the likely default position is going to be that you're telling a lie. With no legal obligation, why even risk consequences if you don't have to.

100% this answer. I'd have looked that deer over well and if no "damning evidence" against me, I'd have called the Game Warden and tried to keep it for extra meat if they'd let me or they could take it to a needy family. A broken neck would be a pretty obvious case of not being the hunters fault so I'd not be concerned at all about getting in trouble.

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