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Fort Worth's turn #7631232 10/13/19 11:16 AM
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A black Texas woman was shot and killed by a white Fort Worth police officer who was called to the woman's home for a welfare check, authorities said.

In a statement, the department said it received a call at 2:25 a.m. reporting an open front door at a residence. Responding officers searched the perimeter of the house and saw a person standing inside near the window, according to police.


"Perceiving a threat, the officer drew his duty weapon and fired one shot, striking the person inside the residence," the department stated. In body camera video released by police, two officers search the home from the outside with flashlights before one shouts, "Put your hands up, show me your hands." One shot is then fired through a window.

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The people of fort worth don't normally riot, but who knows?


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There was a warning and she did have a gun.

""Perceiving a threat, the officer drew his duty weapon and fired one shot, striking the person inside the residence," the department stated. In body camera video released by police, two officers search the home from the outside with flashlights before one shouts, "Put your hands up, show me your hands." One shot is then fired through a window.

Officers entered the house and located an individual and a firearm, and began performing emergency medical care.

Fox 4 Dallas-Fort Worth identified the woman as 28-year-old Atatiana Jefferson. She succumbed to her injuries and was pronounced dead at the scene, police said. There were no other injuries.

The officer has been placed on administrative leave pending the outcome of an investigation, according to police. He has been with the Fort Worth Police Department since April 2018."


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Well, it’s okay since it was a cop. That’s what I’ve learned, and all I need to know about it.

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Originally Posted by bill oxner
There was a warning and she did have a gun.


There was a gun in the house. They didn't say where it was located.


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No guns.... No shootings.... confused2


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I bet the neighbor feels like crap.


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bigbob....you say "The people "of fort worth don't normally riot, but who knows?" There will be plenty of haters come in from elsewhere to fan the hatred flames.

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Originally Posted by Old Shakie
bigbob....you say "The people "of fort worth don't normally riot, but who knows?" There will be plenty of haters come in from elsewhere to fan the hatred flames.


No doubt.


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I'm not going to judge anyone until all of the facts come out. I have a bunch of questions. The information leading up to the shooting is very lacking.

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Here’s the facts:

Weekend night.
It was cool.
People like to sleep with doors and windows open in the fall.
The owner saw a white light flashing around her backyard.
She had the right to defend her life and property in Texas.
The officer made no verbal notice of his presence.
He shot and killed an innocent mother looking out her window.
The officer was not arrested like a civilian would be.
The children of slain will grow up motherless.
The officer will be charged with murder, tried, convicted, receive a minimal sentence, and a hug.


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All's well.... Civil Rights Attorney Lee Merritt has already been hired!


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All's well.... Civil Rights Attorney Lee Merritt has already been hired!


If that’s what it takes to convict this retard, by all means. This $h1+ has to stop. I can’t wait to see what the department and the state uncover to justify this murder. GOD, I pray for my LEO friends and their families. May they never experience something this gruesome.


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Originally Posted by bill oxner
There was a warning and she did have a gun.

""Perceiving a threat, the officer drew his duty weapon and fired one shot, striking the person inside the residence," the department stated. In body camera video released by police, two officers search the home from the outside with flashlights before one shouts, "Put your hands up, show me your hands." One shot is then fired through a window.

Officers entered the house and located an individual and a firearm, and began performing emergency medical care.

Fox 4 Dallas-Fort Worth identified the woman as 28-year-old Atatiana Jefferson. She succumbed to her injuries and was pronounced dead at the scene, police said. There were no other injuries.

The officer has been placed on administrative leave pending the outcome of an investigation, according to police. He has been with the Fort Worth Police Department since April 2018."


Horse chit...that was no warning. Not once did they say "Police" or "Police Officer". That was a "reaction" from an inexperienced cop. It was a welfare check; they should have been identifying themselves repeatedly the moment they stepped on the property. Someones going to jail and the city will end up paying big bucks for wrongful death.


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The liability for wrongful death is guaranteed, finding the officer criminally liable is likely, but not guaranteed.


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If someone is walking around my yard with a flashlight there is going to be a gun in my hand, not just in the house.


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There are to many innocent people police shootings lately. Do they need more training or what? I understand this job is dangerous but why are the police acting this way. It is all over the country happening.
I feel sorry for the families on both sides this officer will have to live with this the rest of his life.

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Originally Posted by retfuz
I'm not going to judge anyone until all of the facts come out. I have a bunch of questions. The information leading up to the shooting is very lacking.

Yep, I'll withhold judgement until I get more confirmed info. But agree that it looks bad from first glance.


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Cop shoots and kills homeowner through their window.

Unless this is false I have no questions to come to a conclusion.

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You would think they would have identified themselves really loud and walked up to the door? The video I saw they were whispering to each other. If I saw two people sneaking around the back of my house with flashlights I would have probably had a gun in my hands. This is horrible!

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Originally Posted by Dalee7892
There are to many innocent people police shootings lately. Do they need more training or what? I understand this job is dangerous but why are the police acting this way. It is all over the country happening.
I feel sorry for the families on both sides this officer will have to live with this the rest of his life.


We need more laws holding police more accountable for each and every mistake that takes a life or time away from work, less unions to hide their mistake, and outlaw the use of our Armed Forces uniforms as a police uniform (it’s a disgrace to my fallen brethren). Make them think 5 times before unholstering their gun or cuffing you.

Construction jobs are dangerous, power line jobs are dangerous, hell, even McDonald’s jobs are dangerous in downtown Dallas. But you don’t see one them capping an innocent mother I her own home.


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Originally Posted by freeonfreak
Originally Posted by Dalee7892
There are to many innocent people police shootings lately. Do they need more training or what? I understand this job is dangerous but why are the police acting this way. It is all over the country happening.
I feel sorry for the families on both sides this officer will have to live with this the rest of his life.


We need more laws holding police more accountable for each and every mistake that takes a life or time away from work, less unions to hide their mistake, and outlaw the use of our Armed Forces uniforms as a police uniform (it’s a disgrace to my fallen brethren). Make them think 5 times before unholstering their gun or cuffing you.

Construction jobs are dangerous, power line jobs are dangerous, hell, even McDonald’s jobs are dangerous in downtown Dallas. But you don’t see one them capping an innocent mother I her own home.




Need more laws???? Police are not exempt from current laws.
Police shoot someone, it goes to the grand jury.

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Originally Posted by freeonfreak
Originally Posted by Dalee7892
There are to many innocent people police shootings lately. Do they need more training or what? I understand this job is dangerous but why are the police acting this way. It is all over the country happening.
I feel sorry for the families on both sides this officer will have to live with this the rest of his life.


We need more laws holding police more accountable for each and every mistake that takes a life or time away from work, less unions to hide their mistake, and outlaw the use of our Armed Forces uniforms as a police uniform (it’s a disgrace to my fallen brethren). Make them think 5 times before unholstering their gun or cuffing you.

Construction jobs are dangerous, power line jobs are dangerous, hell, even McDonald’s jobs are dangerous in downtown Dallas. But you don’t see one them capping an innocent mother I her own home.





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Friday, we were about to get out of the Engine on a car wreck. Car wreck was in the intersection of two very large roads. 4 lanes northbound, 4 lanes eastbound where we were. 4 lanes southbound, 4 lanes westbound. Turn lanes added of course. With one fire Engine we cannot block every possibility. As air brakes were popped, and we were about to get out, I said "everybody try not to die". That is the state of mind, in public safety, dealing with humans. Construction is dangerous, lineman jobs are dangerous, convenience store clerk jobs are dangerous because of humans, same as public safety jobs. We would much rather crawl into a house on fire, with 1000° temps than to work a wreck on a major roadway. As many L.E. officers being shot, I can't blame them for having the "try not to die" mentality.

I am not defending the actions of this officer, on this incident. Probably a rookie wound too tight. However, I ask you cut him a little slack.


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I don't think I can cut him any slack.

Everyone wants to live through the day. This poor women should have.

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