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For all you knife makers out there
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10/09/19 11:45 AM
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mikei
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Re: For all you knife makers out there
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#7628361
10/09/19 05:27 PM
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bjankowski
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That's too much work for me, I have about 200 hundred pounds of some brand new crane cable I picked up in Tulsa a few years ago. They cut off from a crane rigging company and of course they are greased up; they are done like that when manufactured for obvious reasons. They have been sitting under my grinding bench for about two years just collecting dust. I have about 200 pounds of it that I'll never use. I think they are 1" and 1 1/4 one piece is 1 1/2 most are about 30" long. I've gotten rid of about 400 pounds of it last year. I used to have the spec sheaths for it but only God knows where they are now... They are high carbon, fit to make a good billet. I have them posted in Texas Knifemakers Guild Facebook page. I'd like to get rid of it all, I'm never going to use them without a power hammer. If anyone wants any, give me a call or text me 817 239 6123 if you are going to pick some up, bring gloves!
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Re: For all you knife makers out there
[Re: mikei]
#7628446
10/09/19 07:01 PM
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Bush Monkey Knives
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Does Damascus steel have any real world performance advantage over steel that costs pennies on the Damascus dollar?
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Re: For all you knife makers out there
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#7628511
10/09/19 08:26 PM
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bjankowski
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All Does Damascus steel have any real world performance advantage over steel that costs pennies on the Damascus dollar? Depends on who is making the blade. I'm seen 01, 1095, W1, CPM154, D2 ruined by people that have no business making knives much less selling knives. I know some are makers are hooked on one steel and a certain grind, each steel and grind have it's specific purpose. Why they do, I'm not sure, maybe just too ignorant to expand their metallurgy knowledge. A knife is a tool, each designed for specific functions. Same reason there are various modes of transportation, all will get you from point A to point B but each vehicle has a specific intended purpose. So does Damascus steel have advantages over other steels? Just depends on who is behind the steel. Some people should never monkey around with knives period!
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Re: For all you knife makers out there
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#7628575
10/09/19 09:28 PM
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LSCG
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That's too much work for me, I have about 200 hundred pounds of some brand new crane cable I picked up in Tulsa a few years ago. They cut off from a crane rigging company and of course they are greased up; they are done like that when manufactured for obvious reasons. They have been sitting under my grinding bench for about two years just collecting dust. I have about 200 pounds of it that I'll never use. I think they are 1" and 1 1/4 one piece is 1 1/2 most are about 30" long. I've gotten rid of about 400 pounds of it last year. I used to have the spec sheaths for it but only God knows where they are now... They are high carbon, fit to make a good billet. I have them posted in Texas Knifemakers Guild Facebook page. I'd like to get rid of it all, I'm never going to use them without a power hammer. If anyone wants any, give me a call or text me 817 239 6123 if you are going to pick some up, bring gloves! What are you asking for the thicker pieces?
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Re: For all you knife makers out there
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#7628595
10/09/19 09:50 PM
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unclebubba
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Some people should never monkey around with knives period!
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Re: For all you knife makers out there
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#7628599
10/09/19 09:54 PM
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Bush Monkey Knives
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Some people should never monkey around with knives period!
Agree!
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Re: For all you knife makers out there
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#7628765
10/10/19 12:52 AM
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bjankowski
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That's too much work for me, I have about 200 hundred pounds of some brand new crane cable I picked up in Tulsa a few years ago. They cut off from a crane rigging company and of course they are greased up; they are done like that when manufactured for obvious reasons. They have been sitting under my grinding bench for about two years just collecting dust. I have about 200 pounds of it that I'll never use. I think they are 1" and 1 1/4 one piece is 1 1/2 most are about 30" long. I've gotten rid of about 400 pounds of it last year. I used to have the spec sheaths for it but only God knows where they are now... They are high carbon, fit to make a good billet. I have them posted in Texas Knifemakers Guild Facebook page. I'd like to get rid of it all, I'm never going to use them without a power hammer. If anyone wants any, give me a call or text me 817 239 6123 if you are going to pick some up, bring gloves! What are you asking for the thicker pieces? Nothing; I just want to get rid of it. Either that or I'm dumping it.
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Re: For all you knife makers out there
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#7628805
10/10/19 01:24 AM
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MikeC
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I'll bet the price of his knives reflect all of the effort put into the Damascus!
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Re: For all you knife makers out there
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#7628818
10/10/19 01:31 AM
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Good questions. Other than being purdy, I’ve always wondered the same about any advantages.
Man if I knew what Oxner knows I could throw away what I know
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Re: For all you knife makers out there
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#7628825
10/10/19 01:37 AM
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Good questions. Other than being purdy, I’ve always wondered the same about any advantages. That's the advantage....it's damn pretty! Something to be said for the wow factor when you unsheathe the beast.
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Re: For all you knife makers out there
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#7629218
10/10/19 04:13 PM
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MikeC
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From another site: Originally, Damascus steel was used to get the mid between high carbon steels and iron. If the high carbon steel were used, it was often too high and due to them not knowing heat treating to the advance we know today, it would snap too easily. Iron would dull too easily. The mixture got more or less right in between. Nowadays heat treating technology as well as the ability to get the exact amount of carbon has made mono steels far surpassing Damascus of old, so as far as edge retention and toughness goes, modern Damascus is only equal or inferior to mono steels (it's possible to mess up the steel while welding it). However there is one benefit to Damascus: as I said it's a mix of high and low carbon steel, which means the edge itself will have alternating layers of low then high carbon, from heel to tip. As the knife is used, the low carbon (normally the black bands in steel) wears away quicker, but the high stays sharp. This results in microscopic serrations, which are impossible to get that small otherwise. Serrated knives as a rule remove material faster, but because of large serrations they just rip the material away rather than separating it, essentially destroying the material. If you tried cutting a tomato with a serrated blade, you'd end up with a splatter of juice everywhere, but a smooth edge (if slightly dull) will slide on the tomato skin rather than cutting it. The Damascus blade however, has micro serrations: the edge of a given high carbon layer where it meets the (dulled away) low carbon is a sharp corner, which nicks and opens the tomato skin. Not big enough to rip it apart and send juice everywhere, but big enough to efficiently cut even when having not been dulled
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Re: For all you knife makers out there
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#7629354
10/10/19 07:12 PM
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Bullfrog
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Hmmmmm! Cool! Thanks Mike!
Man if I knew what Oxner knows I could throw away what I know
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Re: For all you knife makers out there
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#7629402
10/10/19 08:00 PM
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bjankowski
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Mike I was trying to find the video that Brad Vice had out. I can't find it, he explained it real good. He dragged a dull Damascus blade across his hand and it didn't cut, but then he cut paper with it due to the microscopic serrated edge.
Thanks for the explanation.
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Re: For all you knife makers out there
[Re: Gumbeaux]
#7632112
10/14/19 01:29 PM
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bjankowski
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Good questions. Other than being purdy, I’ve always wondered the same about any advantages. That's the advantage....it's damn pretty! Something to be said for the wow factor when you unsheathe the beast. I agree bro; I made this one for one of our brothers on this forum; talk about "The Wow Factor". Damasteel on tiger stripe maple. Not only is it pretty, it's hard and very functional. It can be passed down for others to enjoy and it be not just be another knife.
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Re: For all you knife makers out there
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#7633123
10/15/19 03:06 PM
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Not my monkeys, not my circus...
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