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 Pumping gas fact or fiction?
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10/09/19 02:54 PM
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Do you believe that cellphones, and leaving cars running while pumping gas can cause a fire? My dad hates that I leave my truck running while pumping gas.
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10/09/19 02:56 PM
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Do you believe that cellphones, and leaving cars running can cause a fire? My dad hates that I leave my truck running while pumping gas. cell phone, doubt it. car running, certainly possible. same with getting in and out of your car. I learned a lot handling jet fuel.
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10/09/19 02:57 PM
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I think the static electricity is the biggest hazard. I leave mine running while pumping all the time.
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10/09/19 03:04 PM
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Don't leave mine running.
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10/09/19 03:08 PM
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Depends on the weather, if it's 110° outside I'm not turning the AC off so I leave it running !!!!
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10/09/19 03:13 PM
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Do you believe that cellphones, and leaving cars running while pumping gas can cause a fire? You asked "can" it cause a fire. The answer is 100% yes! You increase your risk of fire with either one of those options while pumping gas. I don't handle my phone when pumping gas, but I am certainly guilty of leaving my truck running while pumping gas. Usually it's to get a few gallons and go, like a quick NASCAR pit stop. And speaking of NASCAR, they don't turn off their cars either.
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10/09/19 03:16 PM
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Static electricity is the biggest concern. A cell phone doesn't have enough spark potential to it ignite the fumes from a gas pump. You would need a large vapor cloud for a combustion engine to suck it into the intake and start a runaway.
Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
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10/09/19 03:17 PM
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Yep, if it's hot the A/C is staying on.
Static is the definitely a big concern especially in the winter time. When people get in, and out of their cars, and wear multiple layers of clothing.
BigBob i remember a huge fire at Kelly Airforce base. It was cause by static electricity. I was baffled as a child, as to how static could cause such a huge fire. It burned up a C5 if I remember correctly.
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10/09/19 03:18 PM
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During a volunteer firefighters training course, the instructor stated that is rare that a running vehicle starts a fire, but it can happen.
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Re: Pumping gas fact or fiction?
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10/09/19 03:19 PM
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Yep, if it's hot the A/C is staying on.
Static is the definitely a big concern especially in the winter time. When people get in, and out of their cars, and wear multiple layers of clothing.
BigBob i remember a huge fire at Kelly Airforce base. It was cause by static electricity. I was baffled as a child, as to how static could cause such a huge fire. It burned up a C5 if I remember correctly. we always had a 3 way ground when refueling. iv'e seen jet fuel glow with static electricity. make you pucker up a bit.
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10/09/19 03:21 PM
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The last few times I have pumped gas I have seen people smoking cigarettes while they are hanging around the pumps.
I notice a lot of people who keep their vehicles running these days and chatting up on the cell phones.
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10/09/19 03:29 PM
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I don't bc its illegal.
I do leave my diesel truck running though bc it's not as flammable.
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10/09/19 03:30 PM
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I remember back to my childhood with full service gas stations. We would pull in, never turn off a car, and never had issue with fires.
I don't really have too much trouble with a car running. It does annoy me when folks are on their cells during fuel pumping, but more just because it shows they are likely a zombie and not SA...but that is a generalization as I know when I am on my cell I am still constantly surveying and watching.
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10/09/19 03:31 PM
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I don't bc its illegal.
I do leave my diesel truck running though bc it's not as flammable. and there is no possibility of spark from the ignition system.
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10/09/19 03:37 PM
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Only time I leave it running to fuel up is if its HOT and the kiddos are in the back seat in their car seats. Kids sweat like hell in car seats with the a/c cranked most of the time.
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10/09/19 03:50 PM
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If the vehicle is running, cell phone used, or smoking it does improve the chances of an accident. It’s just playing the odds. You might get away with it a thousand times, but if you leave babies in back seat, in car seats, and it’s the time it happens? The excuses won’t ever matter. I have seen a car catch on fire at gas pump. If there had been babies in back seat, they could not have been gotten to. It was fully engulfed in seconds.
If you have reasons/excuses why you do it, you should plan better so you don’t have to even encounter the chance. Once you make the decision to do it, it may be the one in a million chance it happens, at that moment you will have given up your ability to control the situation. Why take that chance?
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10/09/19 03:52 PM
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I've watched a car burn at a gas pump and it's something I don't want to see again.
When a spark is all thats needed to light off fumes that can engulf a vehicle before you can get out of it isn't worth the risk.
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10/09/19 03:52 PM
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10/09/19 03:55 PM
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I'm surprised by all the folks that leave their car/truck running. I've never even considered doing that. May have to start on those summer days.
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10/09/19 04:03 PM
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If the vehicle is running, cell phone used, or smoking it does improve the chances of an accident. It’s just playing the odds. You might get away with it a thousand times, but if you leave babies in back seat, in car seats, and it’s the time it happens? The excuses won’t ever matter. I have seen a car catch on fire at gas pump. If there had been babies in back seat, they could not have been gotten to. It was fully engulfed in seconds.
If you have reasons/excuses why you do it, you should plan better so you don’t have to even encounter the chance. Once you make the decision to do it, it may be the one in a million chance it happens, at that moment you will have given up your ability to control the situation. Why take that chance? Maybe we just shouldn’t drive or leave the house at all.
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If the vehicle is running, cell phone used, or smoking it does improve the chances of an accident. It’s just playing the odds. You might get away with it a thousand times, but if you leave babies in back seat, in car seats, and it’s the time it happens? The excuses won’t ever matter. I have seen a car catch on fire at gas pump. If there had been babies in back seat, they could not have been gotten to. It was fully engulfed in seconds.
If you have reasons/excuses why you do it, you should plan better so you don’t have to even encounter the chance. Once you make the decision to do it, it may be the one in a million chance it happens, at that moment you will have given up your ability to control the situation. Why take that chance? Maybe we just shouldn’t drive or leave the house at all. Seriously? Wow! If that’s the best rational ya got, I would suggest you not. That is just plain silly. How about just control the things you can, make the best decisions you can, and accept the things you can’t. I hope the 20,000 post before that one were not as goofy as 20,001.
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10/09/19 04:15 PM
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If the vehicle is running, cell phone used, or smoking it does improve the chances of an accident. It’s just playing the odds. You might get away with it a thousand times, but if you leave babies in back seat, in car seats, and it’s the time it happens? The excuses won’t ever matter. I have seen a car catch on fire at gas pump. If there had been babies in back seat, they could not have been gotten to. It was fully engulfed in seconds.
If you have reasons/excuses why you do it, you should plan better so you don’t have to even encounter the chance. Once you make the decision to do it, it may be the one in a million chance it happens, at that moment you will have given up your ability to control the situation. Why take that chance? Maybe we just shouldn’t drive or leave the house at all. Seriously? Wow! If that’s the best rational ya got, I would suggest you not. That is just plain silly. How about just control the things you can, make the best decisions you can, and accept the things you can’t. I hope the 20,000 post before that one were not as goofy as 20,001. Seriously, waking up every day is a life and death choice. I guess to be truly safe, I would have to wake up and unbuckle two toddlers and get my wife to stand at a safe distance while I turn the car off and fill it up. How long has it been since you had a kid or have you ever had one?
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10/09/19 04:16 PM
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If the vehicle is running, cell phone used, or smoking it does improve the chances of an accident. It’s just playing the odds. You might get away with it a thousand times, but if you leave babies in back seat, in car seats, and it’s the time it happens? The excuses won’t ever matter. I have seen a car catch on fire at gas pump. If there had been babies in back seat, they could not have been gotten to. It was fully engulfed in seconds.
If you have reasons/excuses why you do it, you should plan better so you don’t have to even encounter the chance. Once you make the decision to do it, it may be the one in a million chance it happens, at that moment you will have given up your ability to control the situation. Why take that chance? Maybe we just shouldn’t drive or leave the house at all. Seriously? Wow! If that’s the best rational ya got, I would suggest you not. That is just plain silly. How about just control the things you can, make the best decisions you can, and accept the things you can’t. I hope the 20,000 post before that one were not as goofy as 20,001. Happy 20,001, Sneaky! I thought it was a good post. 
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If the vehicle is running, cell phone used, or smoking it does improve the chances of an accident. It’s just playing the odds. You might get away with it a thousand times, but if you leave babies in back seat, in car seats, and it’s the time it happens? The excuses won’t ever matter. I have seen a car catch on fire at gas pump. If there had been babies in back seat, they could not have been gotten to. It was fully engulfed in seconds.
If you have reasons/excuses why you do it, you should plan better so you don’t have to even encounter the chance. Once you make the decision to do it, it may be the one in a million chance it happens, at that moment you will have given up your ability to control the situation. Why take that chance? Maybe we just shouldn’t drive or leave the house at all. Seriously? Wow! If that’s the best rational ya got, I would suggest you not. That is just plain silly. How about just control the things you can, make the best decisions you can, and accept the things you can’t. I hope the 20,000 post before that one were not as goofy as 20,001. The likelihood of a running engine causing a fuel pump fire is very very miniscule. The only way for a running engine to cause a fire would be heat from the engine (which is not much cooler once shut off) and having liquid hydrocarbon come into with the hot engine. The other way would be from it sucking vapor into the intake and causing a backfire which would then ignite a vapor cloud. Vapor cloud. Not fumes from the pump but a large volume of hydrocarbon vapor.
Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
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If the vehicle is running, cell phone used, or smoking it does improve the chances of an accident. It’s just playing the odds. You might get away with it a thousand times, but if you leave babies in back seat, in car seats, and it’s the time it happens? The excuses won’t ever matter. I have seen a car catch on fire at gas pump. If there had been babies in back seat, they could not have been gotten to. It was fully engulfed in seconds.
If you have reasons/excuses why you do it, you should plan better so you don’t have to even encounter the chance. Once you make the decision to do it, it may be the one in a million chance it happens, at that moment you will have given up your ability to control the situation. Why take that chance? Maybe we just shouldn’t drive or leave the house at all. Seriously? Wow! If that’s the best rational ya got, I would suggest you not. That is just plain silly. How about just control the things you can, make the best decisions you can, and accept the things you can’t. I hope the 20,000 post before that one were not as goofy as 20,001. The likelihood of a running engine causing a fuel pump fire is very very miniscule. The only way for a running engine to cause a fire would be heat from the engine (which is not much cooler once shut off) and having liquid hydrocarbon come into with the hot engine. The other way would be from it sucking vapor into the intake and causing a backfire which would then ignite a vapor cloud. Vapor cloud. Not fumes from the pump but a large volume of hydrocarbon vapor. I gap in the insulation on the plug wires could too.
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