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Re: What is it about the Guyger trial.... [Re: pegasaurus] #7617972 09/27/19 06:00 PM
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I'm not buying that she was "scared to death". she's a trained cop. I would assume she's seen plenty of scary things. If I'm "scared to death" I would run, like most normal people would.


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Easy to see that the prosecution has done extensive homework and research on their end, whereas defense is putting all their chips in on a "mistake in fact" defense. To my untrained eye, the prosecution is overwhelmingly doing their job in damaging her flimsy defense.

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She better hope for a chance to plea out manslaughter IMO.

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I think she would have fared better not testifying. .Prosecution going for the jugular. She's done for.


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Originally Posted by DQ Kid
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Prosecutor did some damage talking about that first aid stuff and her training.
it did not help that she was sexting and talking about getting drunk and having sex with her cop buddy 2 days after the shooting.

I thought the exact same thing, her married cop, affair boyfriend.


I’m not watching. How did stuff after the shooting get put in evidence? Judge must be leaning towards prosecution to keep out Ranger’s opinion but let that in.....


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I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.


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Originally Posted by Nogalus Prairie
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Prosecutor did some damage talking about that first aid stuff and her training.
it did not help that she was sexting and talking about getting drunk and having sex with her cop buddy 2 days after the shooting.

I thought the exact same thing, her married cop, affair boyfriend.


I’m not watching. How did stuff after the shooting get put in evidence? Judge must be leaning towards prosecution to keep out Ranger’s opinion but let that in.....

Since she testified to her "extreme fear" and unstableness, prosecution via a sidebar was able to get the subsequent texts and fact the night of texts being deleted the day following to point to a clear and stable mindset, contrary to her stated testimony. She did herself no favors in testifying.

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Oops!!!

That’s called “opening the door”. One of the major dangers of client testifying.


Originally Posted by Russ79
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.


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Originally Posted by bigbob_ftw
I'm not buying that she was "scared to death". she's a trained cop. I would assume she's seen plenty of scary things. If I'm "scared to death" I would run, like most normal people would.



Training does not remove fear. Training gives you the tools and/or focus to deal with that fear.


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Your eyesight starts getting weaker but your ability to
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Originally Posted by pegasaurus
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I'm not buying that she was "scared to death". she's a trained cop. I would assume she's seen plenty of scary things. If I'm "scared to death" I would run, like most normal people would.



Training does not remove fear. Training gives you the tools and/or focus to deal with that fear.


then she failed miserably.


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Originally Posted by bigbob_ftw
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I'm not buying that she was "scared to death". she's a trained cop. I would assume she's seen plenty of scary things. If I'm "scared to death" I would run, like most normal people would.



Training does not remove fear. Training gives you the tools and/or focus to deal with that fear.


then she failed miserably.

Right, if that's how she handles a dude with the munchies knocking back some Ben & Jerry's in his own apartment, I'd hate to see how she'd react to a real threat.

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Originally Posted by pegasaurus
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I'm not buying that she was "scared to death". she's a trained cop. I would assume she's seen plenty of scary things. If I'm "scared to death" I would run, like most normal people would.



Training does not remove fear. Training gives you the tools and/or focus to deal with that fear.

That is true, she had leg up on untrained citizens. I good cop would have apprehended him, had him freeze on the ground etc... She was trained for that. I think she got trigger happy, maybe her macho tough cop girl took over, he is in my apartment, you rob the wrong gal?

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What do yall think would be an appropriate sentence, if any?

5-10 is what I think would be appropriate.

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5 years probation

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Originally Posted by S.A. hunter
What do yall think would be an appropriate sentence, if any?

5-10 is what I think would be appropriate.


About 10-15 seems right to me.

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Originally Posted by Nogalus Prairie
Oops!!!

That’s called “opening the door”. One of the major dangers of client testifying.

Opening the door is what got her into this mess.


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Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.

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Originally Posted by Guy
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I'm not buying that she was "scared to death". she's a trained cop. I would assume she's seen plenty of scary things. If I'm "scared to death" I would run, like most normal people would.



Training does not remove fear. Training gives you the tools and/or focus to deal with that fear.

That is true, she had leg up on untrained citizens. I good cop would have apprehended him, had him freeze on the ground etc... She was trained for that. I think she got trigger happy, maybe her macho tough cop girl took over, he is in my apartment, you rob the wrong gal?


Is that what you think? What do yo know about police and policing?

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Originally Posted by Guy
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I'm not buying that she was "scared to death". she's a trained cop. I would assume she's seen plenty of scary things. If I'm "scared to death" I would run, like most normal people would.



Training does not remove fear. Training gives you the tools and/or focus to deal with that fear.

That is true, she had leg up on untrained citizens. I good cop would have apprehended him, had him freeze on the ground etc... She was trained for that. I think she got trigger happy, maybe her macho tough cop girl took over, he is in my apartment, you rob the wrong gal?


I think it was just the opposite. She believed someone was in her apartment late at night and she went into scared little girl mode.

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Originally Posted by S.A. hunter
What do yall think would be an appropriate sentence, if any?

5-10 is what I think would be appropriate.

10-15 for manslaughter, chance to get out in 7 with good behavior; will be in late 30s with lots of life to live just not as a cop.

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Originally Posted by DQ Kid
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What do yall think would be an appropriate sentence, if any?

5-10 is what I think would be appropriate.

10-15 for manslaughter, chance to get out in 7 with good behavior; will be in late 30s with lots of life to live just not as a cop.

IA may want to also look into her partner, married lover too to see if fratnization rules were violated and more importantly where evidence suppression occurred with the deletion of the text messages. He may have some lesser troubles too.

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Originally Posted by DQ Kid
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What do yall think would be an appropriate sentence, if any?

5-10 is what I think would be appropriate.

10-15 for manslaughter, chance to get out in 7 with good behavior; will be in late 30s with lots of life to live just not as a cop.

IA may want to also look into her partner, married lover too to see if fratnization rules were violated and more importantly where evidence suppression occurred with the deletion of the text messages. He may have some lesser troubles too.


Lol

People f coworkers all the time no matter the profession

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I'm not buying that she was "scared to death". she's a trained cop. I would assume she's seen plenty of scary things. If I'm "scared to death" I would run, like most normal people would.



Training does not remove fear. Training gives you the tools and/or focus to deal with that fear.

That is true, she had leg up on untrained citizens. I good cop would have apprehended him, had him freeze on the ground etc... She was trained for that. I think she got trigger happy, maybe her macho tough cop girl took over, he is in my apartment, you rob the wrong gal?


I think it was just the opposite. She believed someone was in her apartment late at night and she went into scared little girl mode.


Yep she probably a different person and mindset when she’s not around her male pack

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Originally Posted by Brother in-law
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What do yall think would be an appropriate sentence, if any?

5-10 is what I think would be appropriate.

10-15 for manslaughter, chance to get out in 7 with good behavior; will be in late 30s with lots of life to live just not as a cop.

IA may want to also look into her partner, married lover too to see if fratnization rules were violated and more importantly where evidence suppression occurred with the deletion of the text messages. He may have some lesser troubles too.


Lol

People f coworkers all the time no matter the profession

Right, not everyone is in LE or military where there have been or may very well be strict rules to restrict or greatly limit that.

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Originally Posted by Choctaw
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I'm not buying that she was "scared to death". she's a trained cop. I would assume she's seen plenty of scary things. If I'm "scared to death" I would run, like most normal people would.



Training does not remove fear. Training gives you the tools and/or focus to deal with that fear.

That is true, she had leg up on untrained citizens. I good cop would have apprehended him, had him freeze on the ground etc... She was trained for that. I think she got trigger happy, maybe her macho tough cop girl took over, he is in my apartment, you rob the wrong gal?


Is that what you think? What do yo know about police and policing?

About as much as the jury.

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Oops!!!

That’s called “opening the door”. One of the major dangers of client testifying.

Opening the door is what got her into this mess.


Well played. smile


Originally Posted by Russ79
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.


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Bigbob,,,,scared to death is exactly what gives people the right to use deadly force,,,when your in "fear of your life",,, or the life of a third party,, just fyi.


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