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270 vs 6.5 creedmore
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09/22/19 02:15 AM
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I’m looking for a new hunting rifle that will be suppressed and I wanted yalls thoughts on which you would choose I rarely will shoot 200+ yards usually closer to 100 but I want something that is capable of I need it. Also which one is better kick wise, I have 308 now and after shooting it a few times it’s unpleasant ( I know not manly), Lately I’ve been going after more exotics axis and blackbuck and plan on going after stag. I’m also open to other calibers if it is offered in the tc compass series.
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Re: 270 vs 6.5 creedmore
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09/22/19 02:49 AM
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In the same weight rifle the 6. Creedmoor will recoil less than the 270 even if both are using the same weight bullet. There is nearly 20% more powder in the 270 but a less efficient case design. Both should do what you are thinking about or another to think about is the 7mm-08 which though a larger diameter bullet is really in between them in game performance
Generally the short action cartridges are better in short barrels mostly I think you get more actual bullet in the barrel for a bit further (difference in case length to be exact) and a shorter powder column. With the 7mm-08 you also have the ability to go with 160 gr bullets in reloads or from custom loaders which is not a bad idea for the Stag hunt
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Re: 270 vs 6.5 creedmore
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09/22/19 02:49 AM
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This is very confusing... you title it “ 270 vs. 6.5 Creedmoor” but then say you shoot a .308 and complain about recoil....shoot the 6.5 Grendel.
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Re: 270 vs 6.5 creedmore
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09/22/19 02:52 AM
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If you think a .308 has too much kick, You will not like the .270. The 6.5 will have slightly less kick. Maybe you should look into a semi-auto rifle? The semi-auto action does a lot to mitigate felt recoil.
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Re: 270 vs 6.5 creedmore
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09/22/19 02:57 AM
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This is very confusing... you title it “ 270 vs. 6.5 Creedmoor” but then say you shoot a .308 and complain about recoil....shoot the 6.5 Grendel.
I had been hearing that both of them recoil less just going off what I had read from magazines ect. I haven’t ever had the chance to shoot them but that’s what made me think those rounds. But I know it’s true you can’t always believe what you read on the internet.
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Re: 270 vs 6.5 creedmore
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09/22/19 03:07 AM
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If you are ‘recoil sensitive’ , the 6.5 Grendel or the .243, (also other 6mm variants) will do the job handily with far less recoil.
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Re: 270 vs 6.5 creedmore
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09/22/19 03:13 AM
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The .308 must not be suppressed or is extremely light, because my suppressed .308 is really tame. Suppress your .308, get some 150s or even 125gr loads, and go hunt. A .270 is gong the wrong direction, a 6.5 won’t be much different than the .308.
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Re: 270 vs 6.5 creedmore
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Also, the .308 isn't considered a heavy kicking round. What rifle are you shooting? What recoil pad is on that rifle?
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Re: 270 vs 6.5 creedmore
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09/22/19 03:29 AM
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Also, the .308 isn't considered a heavy kicking round. What rifle are you shooting? What recoil pad is on that rifle? It’s a Remington 700 and it doesn’t have a recoil pad on it I’ve just shot it as it came out the box, it’s weird to me that gun kicks more than my 12 gauge does even with 3.5 inch shells. Everyone I have let shoot has said the same thing they don’t like to shoot it much, two three shots isn’t bad but if I want to go to the range and shoot a box then you notice it.
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Re: 270 vs 6.5 creedmore
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09/22/19 03:33 AM
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The .308 must not be suppressed or is extremely light, because my suppressed .308 is really tame. Suppress your .308, get some 150s or even 125gr loads, and go hunt. A .270 is gong the wrong direction, a 6.5 won’t be much different than the .308. Your right the 308 is not suppressed and it is light, I thought about threading the barrel but for the price of threading It and the work I can buy the compass already threaded. I’m also not a fan of the trigger in my Remington.
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Re: 270 vs 6.5 creedmore
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09/22/19 03:35 AM
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One of my favorite cartridges has been mentioned above 6.5 Grendel and recoil is noticeably less than the other cartridges listed. It is not available in the Compass but is in Ruger American, Howa Mini, and CZ527.
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Re: 270 vs 6.5 creedmore
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09/22/19 03:47 AM
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So, it's just the hard plastic buttplate? Limbsaver makes a very good pre-fit recoil pad that is unbelievably soft. You may want to look at that. It could make that .308 a soft shooter.
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Re: 270 vs 6.5 creedmore
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09/22/19 04:29 AM
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Agree with unclebubba. A Limbsaver pad will make the .308 pleasant.
Every .270 I’ve ever shot was a hateful, mean, sob compared to performance. I’d rather shoot 338 or 375 magnums. Yes seriously.
If you’re just wanting a new gun there’s nothing wrong with that, it’s a great plan. I also highly recommend the 7-08, it will perform well on anything you’ve mentioned at further distances than you’ve mentioned. Recoil is less than the 308 and 270 as well and will outperform both at extended ranges. Yes I know extended range is not your goal, just tossing it out there.
As much as I hate to say it if you’re not a reloader or know one who will load for you the 6.5 Needmoor is an excellent option when shooting factory ammo. So is the .308 you already shoot. Not just in the accuracy department, but with the wide availability of different bullets they are Very versatile.
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Re: 270 vs 6.5 creedmore
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09/22/19 04:43 AM
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Recoil wise. . . the 308 is more of a push. The 270 is a sharper kick. As said, the 6.5 or 243 will be very tame. BUT for the best, most underrated round of all time, get the 270.
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Re: 270 vs 6.5 creedmore
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09/22/19 11:33 AM
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I’ve owned a .270(700 ADL) for over 45 years. Recoil as felt by me is too close to call between a .270 and .308. I’ve had a 6.5x55 for around 10 years and theoretically it’s recoil should be about the same as a 6.5 Creedmoor. My 6.5x55 has less felt recoil than my .270 but not by much. Both rifles weigh about the same.
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Re: 270 vs 6.5 creedmore
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09/22/19 01:55 PM
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For light recoil in a new rifle, get the 6.5 CM and shoot 100 gr bullets. Way less recoil than my 270 or my 308. The 120 gr bullets in the 6.5 also don’t kick much.
I hunted for 35 years with a 270 and killed a bunch of deer and never really noticed the recoil. About 10 or 12 years ago I switched to a 260 (near twin to the 6.5CM) and kept on shooting deer, but did notice the reduction in recoil. Now, shooting off the bench, the 260 is not unpleasant, but my old 270 will kick you like a mule.
All that said, I do think my old 270 will knock a big buck a little flatter. I just don’t need the extra horsepower on small Texas deer, so happily on I go with the 260.
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Re: 270 vs 6.5 creedmore
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09/22/19 02:15 PM
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Well ...
I would keep the .308 as it's ideal for suppression, especially for the purposes you describe. As others have suggested, add a quality recoil pad, then install a muzzle brake style suppressor mount. Once the suppressor is mounted, it will feel like a .22-250.
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Re: 270 vs 6.5 creedmore
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09/22/19 02:24 PM
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Put a Limbsaver on it and a brake if recoil is an issue. If it is suppressed already recoil should be fairly light in comparison though.
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Re: 270 vs 6.5 creedmore
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09/22/19 03:12 PM
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Get the Creedmoor and shoot 120 or 123 gr bullets. Mild recoil kills deer/ hogs just fine. This is from shooting 200+ pigs and lots of deer /antelope and even 1 elk( grandkid @420 yds)
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Re: 270 vs 6.5 creedmore
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09/22/19 06:48 PM
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I’ve shot a 270 for over 20 years and killed piles of deer with it.
It’s a great round.
My opinion is, a .270 and a 6.5 cm will both kill deer just fine.
If hunting bigger game than deer I would lean towards the .270 however.
Recoil has never been an issue
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Re: 270 vs 6.5 creedmore
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09/22/19 09:13 PM
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If you are set on the TC Compass, then I would honestly go with the 7-08 or 308 version, although the 6.5 Creedmoor will work.
Although the Ruger American in 6.5 Grendel would be a great choice as well for your stated use.
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Re: 270 vs 6.5 creedmore
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09/22/19 09:57 PM
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I’ve owned a .270 for years, maybe 20??
But if I were start over and pick one, I’d prob run 6.5
Same game, little less punch
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Re: 270 vs 6.5 creedmore
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09/22/19 11:28 PM
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This shouldn't even be a question. Any rifle dedicated for suppressed hunting should have the smallest case capacity that will still be effective for the application. A suppressor doesn't do much good if you screw it on the end of a cannon.
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Re: 270 vs 6.5 creedmore
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09/23/19 11:26 AM
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You definitely want a short action and not a 270. I find it very hard to believe ANY rifle in 308 has recoil that can't be managed. Sounds like instead of spending $400 on a new rifle you need to spend $100 getting the barrel threaded and the other $300 on some instruction from FiremanJG on how to properly shoot a rifle. Not trying to sound like a jerk..... but you've got the equipment you need already. You just need to learn how to use it.
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Re: 270 vs 6.5 creedmore
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09/23/19 01:18 PM
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Put a recoil pad on your 308 and load some 125 grain nbt's or sst's at a slightly reduced velocity and it will recoil like a 243.
If the recoil of your 308 is bothering you I would make a bigger step than from it to 6.5 CM, I would look at a 243 win, 6.5 Grendel and maybe a few others. Honestly think a lot of your current issues can be fixed with a recoil pad a better fitting stock and possibly a different load.
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