Im a hairs width over 6-foot tall bare foot, usually wear boots so a touch taller. I like to be able to reach into the bed of a pickup and on many production pickups it aint easy.

I got no use for a lift, level, or 37 inch tires.

The F250's are the best looking truck on the road IMO.

I drive through huge potholes/washouts on the daily, I have no use for a squatty pickup with the front bumper 4" off the ground. Might as well buy a car.

Lol its a far cry from something that will go through potholes and washouts to a 37 inch tires on a want to be monster truck.

Sheesh, the top of the tailgate is 5’ tall on my new F350. I don’t want a lift.

Market research. The half tons are low because they need to be easy to get into, easy to park, and fit in a garage, because that's what the suburban housewives and Starbuck sipping metro boys want in a truck. The 250s and up are bigger and more powerful because that's what farmers and ranchers want. The Tundra tried to come in between, and wound up being the jack of all trades, master of none.

[quote=Shotgun Willie]Market research. The half tons are low because they need to be easy to get into, easy to park, and fit in a garage, because that's what the suburban housewives and Starbuck sipping metro boys want in a truck.

You obviously have no clue how many 1/2t F150's, Chevy's, and Dodge's are working in the oil fields of the Permian, by making an idiotic statement like that.

Ha, won't argue with that. Work from home for the day job, that's a big reason why. New lease is 5.5 hrs away, that will put some miles on the new one.

My new Toyota Tundra is way better than the last personal vehicle I bought for myself....it was a Ford...1971 Pinto....it did get 30MPG and the 8 track was awesome.

I don't miss it.

Simmer down, hot sauce. That they're used extensively in the patch doesn't change their design features. Way more 1/2 ton trucks are bought by suburbanites whose greatest challenge for them will be a weekend trip to Lowes than are bought by oil companies. Thus, why they're built lower and smaller than the 3/4 ton and up trucks.

I agree with jgraider, again.

mainly see ford and chevy down in the eagleford. can't remember ever seeing a Toyota

they chevy Duramax's are built the same way.....4" off the ground and raked like a snowplow...

Its kinda like riding in Zeus's Chariot, I'm not gonna lie

I bought a Tacoma Crew Cab TRD new in 2002. Immediately put on an ARB front locker and a winch. Found out quickly it can go virtually anywhere and the winch could be used to get others out of trouble. This includes ATVs.

Plan was to drive it for 100,000 miles and then use it as a hunting truck. At 150,000 miles, I painted it drab green and put on a set of Deestone bias mud & snow tires (16x7.50). I do drive it anywhere and never have been stranded with a flat. Having a both front and rear axle lockers makes a huge difference. that there is true four wheel drive without a limited slip. The front locker is likely more important than the rear. Having both wheels turning under the weight of the engine compartment really helps.

Why did I paint it? I parked the silver truck about 500 yards away from my blind over some low brush. When the sun came up, it looked like an alien space ship had landed.

NAILED IT!!!

I do like the handling properties of my Tacoma...which has about 6,500 miles on it now, but hate the transmission. I don't think I would ever purchase one with the same auto transmission as this again. Driving with small grades down the freeways, it's still shifting up and down on a pretty continual basis. I guess it's probably because of the gearing to try for better mileage. If I had another one, I would have to opt for a standard transmission, and would like that better. I can actually add a couple miles to the gas mileage by not using the speed control, and controlling the shifting somewhat with the gas pedal.

My Tacomas both averaged 20+. If I did not need a full size I would still be driving one but not a Gen3. Toyota ruined the Tacoma with the new transmission and car motor.

Same with Fords. I remember the days when you distinguish a 4x4 truck just by the stance, Not so any more. I knew as soon as I got my Tundra that the front end had to come up. Oredered and installed new coilovers in the first month.

I had a 2017 Tundra CM SR-5. It was a great truck. No problems in 75,000 miles of daily driving and towing my boat and travel trailer. We were usually towing one or the other every weekend. I went to Houston for a week to help out during Harvey and had water in the cab on a couple of occasions..not a single ill-effect. The truck was awesome.

A few months ago Toyota was running a promotion on the 2020s so I traded the 2017 for a sparking new 2020. With the rumors of a totally new design coming in 2021, I wanted the most recent “old design” I could get. I don’t trust first year new designs. Anyway, I’m regretting the “upgrade.” I’d rather have my old 2017 back.

The new electronics package is glitchy, and I have a front-end wobble @ 70mph that’s been looked at a couple of times. It’s going back again next week for more “diagnosis.” There is a lot more buzziness felt in the pedal and wind noise than the old truck.

Toyota also deleted the external trans cooler on the 2019/2020 trucks. Last weekend was the first time I’ve towed with the new truck and I swear I could smell burning rubber every time we stopped, though I couldn’t figure out where it was coming from.

I’m wishing I had kept my 2017..