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Re: Texas governor expresses concern about private gun sales [Re: pegasaurus] #7603401 09/10/19 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by pegasaurus
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The point is, these people make a choice to drive drunk and nearly 11K people are killed because of it every year. Way more than are killed by these crazies than are killed by crazies with guns.
Everyone turns a blind eye to it because it is a hard problem to solve and not politically tenable to address.


The annual murder rate in America exceeds 16,000 every year. The rate of murder is high and read and heard about so often that people are not shocked by a murder, it takes a mass killing to make the front page for more than a day or two.

To compare the murder rate with facts of the driving under the influence solves neither problem and really is not offering any info to help solve either of the problems. That is rationalizing, which is as useless as the udders on a bull.


Murder rate by what means??? And thank you for you stating my point as it relates to DUI deaths.
No one cares because it is not on the tongue of a politician and mass shooters are. That does not change the fact that more people die from DUI related incidents than mass shootings. And the really important part is that it can be reduced to almost 0 by installing an interlock device in every car. But, people care more about their “personal freedoms” when it comes to drinking and driving than they do about “personal freedoms” when it comes to the constitution.



And look at the amount of criminal activity during prohibition.

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Re: Texas governor expresses concern about private gun sales [Re: SnakeWrangler] #7603894 09/11/19 12:04 PM
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Bypassing the second amendment is like calling for mass castration of good guys because rapes have been on the increase.

We don't have a gun problem, we have a societal/mental health problem. The "Well, we have to do something" attitude causes blind, knee jerk reactions. I will get onboard when I see a plan that actually keeps guns away from bad guys and does not reduce the gun rights of innocent men and women.


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Re: Texas governor expresses concern about private gun sales [Re: SnakeWrangler] #7603953 09/11/19 01:07 PM
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The reason why is simple on why the big corps are in on trying to get tougher gun laws, they are in lockstep with the media and the hater party for fear of losing favor in both. The ultimate goal is of course to disarm the American population. It will be a goal until it's done, they will never stop trying. Not sure why our governor is tossing in on the idea of stopping privates sales anymore than any other 'so called' conservative would. Could be a ploy to stop the argument in it's tracks or it could be baby steps towards the goal the socialists have in mind. We won't know until we see what comes out of the house in both the country and state.

It's a virtually impossible goal in this country, but you know they will never stop trying.


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Re: Texas governor expresses concern about private gun sales [Re: SnakeWrangler] #7604752 09/12/19 02:09 AM
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All these new regulations are coming, sooner than later

Makes me sick

Re: Texas governor expresses concern about private gun sales [Re: DeckArtist] #7605249 09/12/19 05:28 PM
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There is no corporate profit in private sales!!!

Originally Posted by DeckArtist
The reason why is simple on why the big corps are in on trying to get tougher gun laws, they are in lockstep with the media and the hater party for fear of losing favor in both. The ultimate goal is of course to disarm the American population. It will be a goal until it's done, they will never stop trying. Not sure why our governor is tossing in on the idea of stopping privates sales anymore than any other 'so called' conservative would. Could be a ploy to stop the argument in it's tracks or it could be baby steps towards the goal the socialists have in mind. We won't know until we see what comes out of the house in both the country and state.

It's a virtually impossible goal in this country, but you know they will never stop trying.



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Re: Texas governor expresses concern about private gun sales [Re: SnakeWrangler] #7605373 09/12/19 08:07 PM
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Maybe this is just a stalling tactic to get it fall out of the news. Short of some kind of executive order or special session, they aren't going to do anything until they reconvene in 2021. So there is lots of time between now and then for this to go away. Call it a perk of having a state legislature that only meets every two years. They could also kill this in the scheduling committee like they've done with so many other things.


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Re: Texas governor expresses concern about private gun sales [Re: dogcatcher] #7605396 09/12/19 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by dogcatcher
There is no corporate profit in private sales!!!

Originally Posted by DeckArtist
The reason why is simple on why the big corps are in on trying to get tougher gun laws, they are in lockstep with the media and the hater party for fear of losing favor in both. The ultimate goal is of course to disarm the American population. It will be a goal until it's done, they will never stop trying. Not sure why our governor is tossing in on the idea of stopping privates sales anymore than any other 'so called' conservative would. Could be a ploy to stop the argument in it's tracks or it could be baby steps towards the goal the socialists have in mind. We won't know until we see what comes out of the house in both the country and state.

It's a virtually impossible goal in this country, but you know they will never stop trying.




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Re: Texas governor expresses concern about private gun sales [Re: SnakeWrangler] #7605402 09/12/19 08:42 PM
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Abbott just released this, no mention of requiring background checks for private sales.

https://www.kxan.com/news/texas/gov...ollowing-recent-mass-shootings-in-texas/

This was in there as well:
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The Legislature should consider ways to make it easy, affordable, and beneficial for a private seller of firearms to voluntarily use background checks when selling firearms to strangers.

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