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Africa - response to Antis #7602054 09/09/19 04:22 PM
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...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
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Outstanding! Thanks for sharing up

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Wow. up


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Well done!

Re: Africa - response to Antis [Re: Creekrunner] #7602129 09/09/19 05:27 PM
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Just received it in DSC email and thought I'd pass it along. Itching to send it to one daughter, but it's not gonna improve our relationship. bang


...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
Re: Africa - response to Antis [Re: Creekrunner] #7602136 09/09/19 05:33 PM
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Good, but I wish they had cut out the 1st 45 seconds as he moved around the house.

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Originally Posted by jrgocards
Good, but I wish they had cut out the 1st 45 seconds as he moved around the house.

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Excellent video!

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Great message........too bad it will fall on deaf ears.......


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Re: Africa - response to Antis [Re: Pitchfork Predator] #7602273 09/09/19 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Pitchfork Predator
Great message........too bad it will fall on deaf ears.......

Yep, they would rather protest it to death than listen to logic and science. There is no way they will let 50 years of success and improvements replace their feelings.

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Good video; sadly preaching to the choir I fear.


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I was at dinner at friends house this past Sat and the women were talking about various podcasts that they had heard recently. when one of them very excitedly started talking about a podcast that must have been related to this.
She never knew about the money raised through the auctioning of the hunt permits, that only select cull animals were chosen, that the meat was donated back to the community, that the money raised paid for Rangers to go after poachers, etc, etc.
I just sat there nodding my head going 'yeah, I knew that, yeah, I knew that also'..... If only you could have seen the enlightened look on her face. I think I convinced her that Hunters really can be Conservationists.

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Re: Africa - response to Antis [Re: Creekrunner] #7602482 09/09/19 10:49 PM
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I hunted there a few years ago. It was high fence on a huge place. I talked to the PH about the hunting business. He told me that some years ago, there wasn’t a lot of wildlife left. It had been turned into groceries by protein hungry people who had no jobs and no skills. Then “someone” started breeding and raising them in a high fence. Others fenced their places and bought game for breeding. Now, it’s fairly common. Expensive? Yep but only with a commercial reason would it be affordable to raise them.

We hunted for 5 days out of 10 in the country. Spent $ that it took quite a while to save.

Then we got driven around the countryside to various tourist places. I dang sure didn’t see anybody that was overweight. Everywhere we went we saw locals walking with their thumbs out trying to get a ride. When we were driven back to the airport to catch a flight to Capetown, we got in a traffic jam on a 2 lane highway. When we finally got the source of the problem, we found that a truck carrying fruit had flipped and lost the load. This was 10 miles from the nearest town. About 100 native people were there getting the fruit. None of them were over weight either. Just hungry.

We flew to Capetown to do tourist stuff and shark dive. Leaving the airport, on each side of the road we’re miles of shacks with one guys outside wall also being his neighbors wall. Outhouses of all kinds were evident. I u derstand thT this is common in a lot of places in Africa and Europe. I’ve never traveled that much so this was a first for me. We hired a guide who warned us not to go walking around the town at night and be very careful.

Watched TV in the hotel in the mornings. Always something about native politicians being indicted for graft. According to the guide, corruption is going full speed since Nelson Mandela ousted the evil white politicians quite a few years ago.

The current president ran on a platform of kicking out and taking land back from the evil white people that stole it from the natives. Heck, when the Dutch, Brits, etc arrived, it was a wasteland with no native population.

Just my observation from a guy who was one time a tourist there.


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That was awesome. I agree that most anti hunters really won't listen to it though. They will spread propaganda and lies, and accuse us of it.

My mother in law thinks people that would hunt Africa have to be closet Satanists and generally evil men. She still doesn't quite get the difference between a hunter and a poacher, or understand that sportsmen are and always have been at the forefront of most successful conservation efforts in my lifetime.

It will be an uphill battle forever.

But it was a damn good video! It's gotta at least help tip the odds in our favor with people still riding the fence. Or at least encourage people to hunt for the truth.


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Originally Posted by Dave Davidson
I hunted there a few years ago. It was high fence on a huge place. I talked to the PH about the hunting business. He told me that some years ago, there wasn’t a lot of wildlife left. It had been turned into groceries by protein hungry people who had no jobs and no skills. Then “someone” started breeding and raising them in a high fence. Others fenced their places and bought game for breeding. Now, it’s fairly common. Expensive? Yep but only with a commercial reason would it be affordable to raise them.

We hunted for 5 days out of 10 in the country. Spent $ that it took quite a while to save.

Then we got driven around the countryside to various tourist places. I dang sure didn’t see anybody that was overweight. Everywhere we went we saw locals walking with their thumbs out trying to get a ride. When we were driven back to the airport to catch a flight to Capetown, we got in a traffic jam on a 2 lane highway. When we finally got the source of the problem, we found that a truck carrying fruit had flipped and lost the load. This was 10 miles from the nearest town. About 100 native people were there getting the fruit. None of them were over weight either. Just hungry.

We flew to Capetown to do tourist stuff and shark dive. Leaving the airport, on each side of the road we’re miles of shacks with one guys outside wall also being his neighbors wall. Outhouses of all kinds were evident. I u derstand thT this is common in a lot of places in Africa and Europe. I’ve never traveled that much so this was a first for me. We hired a guide who warned us not to go walking around the town at night and be very careful.

Watched TV in the hotel in the mornings. Always something about native politicians being indicted for graft. According to the guide, corruption is going full speed since Nelson Mandela ousted the evil white politicians quite a few years ago.

The current president ran on a platform of kicking out and taking land back from the evil white people that stole it from the natives. Heck, when the Dutch, Brits, etc arrived, it was a wasteland with no native population.

Just my observation from a guy who was one time a tourist there.


Very similar to our experience - super poor country - the animals we shot were scooped up by the tribal fathers who were in charge of each village - they were all very thankful -


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Very well said


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Originally Posted by Creekrunner
Just received it in DSC email and thought I'd pass it along. Itching to send it to one daughter, but it's not gonna improve our relationship. bang


Great video and post, I am going to share it on my FB page. up

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Great video that I just shared as well. Thanks for posting!


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Outstanding! Thanks for sharing up

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Strong and Powerful Message

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Originally Posted by Nwernig
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Simply awesome. Thank you for sharing...

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Originally Posted by Pitchfork Predator
Great message........too bad it will fall on deaf ears.......

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Originally Posted by Pitchfork Predator
Great message........too bad it will fall on deaf ears.......

Yep, they would rather protest it to death than listen to logic and science. There is no way they will let 50 years of success and improvements replace their feelings.


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