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Face to face
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09/04/19 10:57 AM
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mow
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Is it illegal for me to sell a gun to a friend .or anybody else in a private transaction? That's what we are led to believe from reports on the Midland shooter
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Re: Face to face
[Re: mow]
#7597505
09/04/19 11:00 AM
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Stub
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I think it is okay as long as he is not a Felon? Be sure and have a good bill of sale!
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Re: Face to face
[Re: mow]
#7597509
09/04/19 11:08 AM
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pegasaurus
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Not illegal....... YET.....
Funny thing about getting older: Your eyesight starts getting weaker but your ability to see through people's BS gets much better.
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Re: Face to face
[Re: Stub]
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09/04/19 11:15 AM
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pegasaurus
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I think it is okay as long as he is not a Felon? Be sure and have a good bill of sale! Bill of sale does nothing but provide a receipt for the sale. If the ATF comes asking about a firearm you bought through an FFL at some point in the past, you can show it was sold. However, that does not prove you followed the law and did not knowingly sell it to someone that is not allowed to own / possess a firearm.
Funny thing about getting older: Your eyesight starts getting weaker but your ability to see through people's BS gets much better.
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Re: Face to face
[Re: mow]
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09/04/19 12:11 PM
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Mickey Moose
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Both of pegasaurus' responses are correct.
To add to it, the proper way to protect yourself is to do the transaction through an FFL.
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Re: Face to face
[Re: pegasaurus]
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09/04/19 01:26 PM
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NORML as can be
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Not illegal....... YET.....
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Re: Face to face
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#7597709
09/04/19 02:45 PM
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LarryCopper
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I think it is okay as long as he is not a Felon? Be sure and have a good bill of sale! Bill of sale does nothing but provide a receipt for the sale. If the ATF comes asking about a firearm you bought through an FFL at some point in the past, you can show it was sold. However, that does not prove you followed the law and did not knowingly sell it to someone that is not allowed to own / possess a firearm. "Knowingly" is the key word there. You have no obligation to ask a buyer. The law also states that the felon had to be incarcerated within the last 5 years. https://lawcenter.giffords.org/private-sales-in-texas/
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Re: Face to face
[Re: NORML as can be]
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09/04/19 02:51 PM
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PMK
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Not illegal....... YET.....
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Re: Face to face
[Re: LarryCopper]
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09/04/19 03:07 PM
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hopalong
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I think it is okay as long as he is not a Felon? Be sure and have a good bill of sale! Bill of sale does nothing but provide a receipt for the sale. If the ATF comes asking about a firearm you bought through an FFL at some point in the past, you can show it was sold. However, that does not prove you followed the law and did not knowingly sell it to someone that is not allowed to own / possess a firearm. "Knowingly" is the key word there. You have no obligation to ask a buyer. The law also states that the felon had to be incarcerated within the last 5 years. https://lawcenter.giffords.org/private-sales-in-texas/federal law says a felon can not be in possession of a firearm, matters not what Tx. says since fed. trumps it. https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/usao-ut/legacy/2013/06/03/guncard.pdf
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Re: Face to face
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09/04/19 08:19 PM
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Dry Fire
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The Odessa coward had two tear drop tattoos under his left eye. If that wasn't a red flag, then the seller was a blind man.
coffee spelled backwards is eeffoc. I don't give eeffoc until I have my morning coffee.
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Re: Face to face
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09/04/19 08:21 PM
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beaversnipe
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The Odessa coward had two tear drop tattoos under his left eye. If that wasn't a red flag, then the seller was a blind man. The seller had 3 under his right eye
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Re: Face to face
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09/04/19 09:41 PM
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dogcatcher
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The Odessa coward had two tear drop tattoos under his left eye. If that wasn't a red flag, then the seller was a blind man. The Odessa newspaper stated he had driven several hours from Odessa to buy the weapon. Apparently they know who the seller was. https://www.oaoa.com/news/crime_jus...abd8b1c-cea9-11e9-8432-23f182bcaa85.htmlA law enforcement official reportedly spoke to the Associated Press Tuesday on condition of anonymity because the person wasn’t authorized to discuss an ongoing investigation. The OA confirmed through a different source that the gun was purchased in Texas illegally and that the gunman, Seth Ator, drove several hours from Odessa to obtain the gun.
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Re: Face to face
[Re: Dry Fire]
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09/04/19 11:21 PM
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The Odessa coward had two tear drop tattoos under his left eye. If that wasn't a red flag, then the seller was a blind man. Lets think outside the box a little here......is it possible he got the tats after he bought the gun?
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Re: Face to face
[Re: mow]
#7598280
09/05/19 12:44 AM
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kry226
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Yup, the .gov would have to prove you "knowingly" sold to a felon. Tough litmus test.
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