texashuntingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
TJN, TxEcho, alco, chigh_six9, Cashman
65514 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
dogcatcher 93,704
bill oxner 55,840
stxranchman 54,856
SnakeWrangler 46,336
RKHarm24 44,585
rifleman 44,430
BMD 41,029
Big Orn 37,484
txshntr 35,567
Facebook
Forum Statistics
Forums45
Topics434,251
Posts6,302,984
Members65,514
Most Online16,728
Mar 25th, 2012
Print Thread
No longer a Deet man #7577287 08/11/19 02:22 AM
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 15,140
T
Texas Dan Offline OP
THF Celebrity
OP Offline
THF Celebrity
T
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 15,140
Until this evening when I went to pick up a new can of mosquito repellent, I had no idea there was another chemical besides Deet that works well at keeping the bugs off you. I'll be hunting a new tract this year and got eaten up by red bugs/chiggers when I was there recently doing some scouting. I noticed the active ingredient in this new can is a chemical called picaridin that is reported to work just as well but is odorless, and most importantly, will not interact with plastics and make them tacky.

Yes, as good as a Thermacell works at keeping bugs away when you're not moving, there are times when a conventional spray is a must.

Last edited by Texas Dan; 08/11/19 02:25 AM.

Dan,

Spring, Texas
Re: No longer a Deet man [Re: Texas Dan] #7577473 08/11/19 02:57 PM
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 2,051
W
White Falcon Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
W
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 2,051
Pic of the can?

Re: No longer a Deet man [Re: Texas Dan] #7577518 08/11/19 04:12 PM
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 7,685
6
603Country Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
6
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 7,685
Tests show that the two chemicals are equal protection agains skeeters. DEET is better against ticks, but supposedly not as good against other biting insects. Chiggers were not specifically mentioned in what I read.

Picaridin won’t eat plastics and isn’t greasy, and is the favored repellant in Australia and NZ since its introduction in 1998.


Not my monkeys, not my circus...
Re: No longer a Deet man [Re: White Falcon] #7577606 08/11/19 06:29 PM
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 15,140
T
Texas Dan Offline OP
THF Celebrity
OP Offline
THF Celebrity
T
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 15,140
Originally Posted by White Falcon
Pic of the can?


[Linked Image]

"WON'T DAMAGE GEAR"

Last edited by Texas Dan; 08/11/19 06:33 PM.

Dan,

Spring, Texas
Re: No longer a Deet man [Re: Texas Dan] #7577673 08/11/19 08:43 PM
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 45,251
BOBO the Clown Offline
decoy
Offline
decoy
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 45,251
Sawyer has been making it for years, they also have a lotion version that lasts a lot longer.

In fact they advise using a layering system. For clothing use permethrin and picaidian on skin.

I bought the half gallon jug for the kids

[Linked Image]

Re: No longer a Deet man [Re: BOBO the Clown] #7577700 08/11/19 09:14 PM
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 15,140
T
Texas Dan Offline OP
THF Celebrity
OP Offline
THF Celebrity
T
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 15,140
Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
Sawyer has been making it for years, they also have a lotion version that lasts a lot longer.

In fact they advise using a layering system. For clothing use permethrin and picaidian on skin.

I bought the half gallon jug for the kids

[Linked Image]




Thanks for sharing.

When comparing products, it appears a 20% solution is the most available, as opposed to Deet products that may be as high as 100%.

I ordered a can of the Sawyer spray off Amazon since it's easy to pack and will cover skin and clothing alike. Just a matter of personal preference for sure.


Dan,

Spring, Texas
Re: No longer a Deet man [Re: Texas Dan] #7577732 08/11/19 10:11 PM
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 86
L
Lalo Offline
Outdoorsman
Offline
Outdoorsman
L
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 86
For chiggers, permethrin on the clothes is definitely the way to go.

Re: No longer a Deet man [Re: Lalo] #7577884 08/12/19 01:48 AM
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,757
E
Espy Online Content
Extreme Tracker
Online Content
Extreme Tracker
E
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,757
Originally Posted by Lalo
For chiggers, permethrin on the clothes is definitely the way to go.

up

Re: No longer a Deet man [Re: Lalo] #7578154 08/12/19 02:16 PM
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 2,421
V
Vern1 Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
V
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 2,421
I have severe reactions to DEET so have to look elsewhere.
I've been using Cutter Natural insect repellent and it works well but the smell is pretty strong.
It works on mosquitos and ticks very well, but you have to put down a pretty good layer from knees down to keep chiggers at bay - and heaven help you if you squat down or are in waist deep weeds...
I only use it hunting when the wind is strong and in my favor.

[Linked Image]


Originally Posted by Lalo
For chiggers, permethrin on the clothes is definitely the way to go.


Permethrin is a contact kill insecticide, not a repellent.
It's also listed as a medicine used to treat lice and scabies..... eek

Luckily, the Texas heat does a number on the chiggers right about now!
And since it's been hot and dry, mosquitoes aren't bad either.


Cheers,
Vern1
Texans since The Old 300 in 1824
NRA Lifetime Member
Re: No longer a Deet man [Re: Texas Dan] #7578617 08/13/19 12:18 AM
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,928
A
Always ready 2 hunt Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
A
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,928
thanks for sharing. I remember 30+ years ago the craze with some Avon product and men asking wifes to order for them.
I'm gonna order some Sawyer

Re: No longer a Deet man [Re: Texas Dan] #7578639 08/13/19 12:50 AM
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,896
T
Texas buckeye Offline
Extreme Tracker
Offline
Extreme Tracker
T
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,896
My wife is allergic to picardin. She gets a good rash when she uses it, so she has gone all natural with citronella and “something” spray. I like the permithrin on clothes I am going to hunt in, works well, and thermacell. But times when thermacell dies right when the hunting is good and making noise to take it apart and put it back together are annoying.

Re: No longer a Deet man [Re: Vern1] #7579520 08/14/19 02:03 AM
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 45,251
BOBO the Clown Offline
decoy
Offline
decoy
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 45,251
Originally Posted by Vern1
I have severe reactions to DEET so have to look elsewhere.
I've been using Cutter Natural insect repellent and it works well but the smell is pretty strong.
It works on mosquitos and ticks very well, but you have to put down a pretty good layer from knees down to keep chiggers at bay - and heaven help you if you squat down or are in waist deep weeds...
I only use it hunting when the wind is strong and in my favor.

[Linked Image]


Originally Posted by Lalo
For chiggers, permethrin on the clothes is definitely the way to go.


Permethrin is a contact kill insecticide, not a repellent.
It's also listed as a medicine used to treat lice and scabies..... eek

Luckily, the Texas heat does a number on the chiggers right about now!
And since it's been hot and dry, mosquitoes aren't bad either.


Put a tick on clothing treated with permethrin and they will immediately remove them selves.

Regardless of how it’s classified it's what every clothing mfg uses for their big repellent clothing. It simply works

Re: No longer a Deet man [Re: BOBO the Clown] #7579658 08/14/19 11:53 AM
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 2,421
V
Vern1 Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
V
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 2,421
Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown


Put a tick on clothing treated with permethrin and they will immediately remove them selves.

Regardless of how it’s classified it's what every clothing mfg uses for their big repellent clothing. It simply works



Not arguing, just saying what the manufacturer says it is an insecticide, not a repellent but the bugs are smart enough to know it's not good for them.
One of the cool things about THF is the knowledge base here.

At one time Dioxin was the herbicide of choice used by everybody until they found out how bad it was.
So they switched to Glyphosate as the next latest, greatest and safest thing and we know where that is going.


Cheers,
Vern1
Texans since The Old 300 in 1824
NRA Lifetime Member
Re: No longer a Deet man [Re: Vern1] #7580060 08/14/19 08:01 PM
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 45,251
BOBO the Clown Offline
decoy
Offline
decoy
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 45,251
Originally Posted by Vern1
Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown


Put a tick on clothing treated with permethrin and they will immediately remove them selves.

Regardless of how it’s classified it's what every clothing mfg uses for their big repellent clothing. It simply works



Not arguing, just saying what the manufacturer says it is an insecticide, not a repellent but the bugs are smart enough to know it's not good for them.
One of the cool things about THF is the knowledge base here.

At one time Dioxin was the herbicide of choice used by everybody until they found out how bad it was.
So they switched to Glyphosate as the next latest, greatest and safest thing and we know where that is going.



Sorry misunderstood you. Ironically glyphosate will eventually be ruled safe after it goes to a judge where scientific facts are actually relevant

Re: No longer a Deet man [Re: Texas Dan] #7580550 08/15/19 12:58 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,876
K
KWood_TSU Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
K
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,876


Amat Victoria Curam - Victory Loves Preparation

Bison Coolers



Re: No longer a Deet man [Re: KWood_TSU] #7580563 08/15/19 01:12 PM
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 13,162
Creekrunner Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 13,162
Originally Posted by KWood_TSU


Thanks for the reminder. I've never tried it, but a lot of guys swear by it to even reduce the bites of tsetse flies in Africa. Those things are like getting attacked by hypodermic needles.


...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
Re: No longer a Deet man [Re: Texas Dan] #7589562 08/26/19 02:50 AM
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 112
G
ghostlight Offline
Woodsman
Offline
Woodsman
G
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 112
ok I'll try the Sawyer


Don't be afraid of the light it's just me.
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

© 2004-2019 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3