I don’t think I have ever been on a ranch of any size that didnt have a sustain water system(outside of extreme drought) in place including far west Texas. Cattle is still king in Texas. Not saying there isn’t just not the norm.

No, but a helluva lot of it is - more HF than anywhere on earth outside South Africa.

Access to water has been my concern for me. I have always wondered what other game animals are affected besides deer when water sources are fenced with a high fence and no longer available to free range animals. I bring this up because I know of a specific fence erected along one side of a 16,000 acre ranch to purposely cut water sources off to a "Bad" neighbor's deer herd.

And why do you think South Africa has so much? Maybe it is the same reason Texas does.

I'm in the FU camp, I do what I want with my own land, but for argument sake...

1000 acres min.....ecologically speaking, less than that it doesn't make much sense

So even though I have less than 1000 acres and need a HF to raise Ibex it doesn't make much sense. Interesting.

There’s 3 types of HF haters

1). Those that are jealous.

2). Those that hunt small acreage & depend on the deer that stay on their neighbors place (98% of the time) to cross the low fence onto their piddlin place. Most of these pricks are fenceline hunters.

3). Crusty old curmudgeons who recall the glory days of their youth, when they could hunt a lot of property, before all these Dallas people showed up wantin to hunt. Hey you kids get off my lawn!

That shows exactly how much you know.

Let the hate flow.

Replying to yourself?

Majority of those who disagree with HF have nothing to do with the 3 reasons you posted. Generally the complaint is about fair-chase, and the deer having a chance to escape.

Escape? Yes most hunters drive around on a 4 wheeler chasing them until you run them to the neighbors, oh wait it’s got a fence. They run to a fence and stop and put their hands up and yell don’t shoot.

Escape what? Most hunting scenario/set ups equal less then a half to an acreage of total hunting area. So you are saying a 1000acre HF proper confines the deer from escaping your 1 acre feeder set up. Gotcha

If escape you mean a fence around a 1 acre pen then yes you are correct.



Fair chase with a truck, custom rifle, corn, no native food plots, optics etc... lol.

Fair chase is an idiotic methodology that literally defies the use of any modern tool or tool use. Nothing fair chase about efficiencies

Fair chase is the new “trophy hunting” anti rhetoric .... it’s a noose for hunters

Escape? Yes most hunters drive around on a 4 wheeler chasing them until you run them to the neighbors, oh wait it’s got a fence. They run to a fence and stop and put their hands up and yell don’t shoot.

Escape what? Most hunting scenario/set ups equal less then a half to an acreage of total hunting area. So you are saying a 1000acre HF proper confines the deer from escaping your 1 acre feeder set up. Gotcha

If escape you mean a fence around a 1 acre pen then yes you are correct.



Fair chase with a truck, custom rifle, corn, no native food plots, optics etc... lol.

Fair chase is an idiotic methodology that literally defies the use of any modern tool or tool use. Nothing fair chase about efficiencies

Fair chase is the new “trophy hunting” anti rhetoric .... it’s a noose for hunters

Boom....

You know what escape means, you're not stupid. And you know the definition of fair chase. Means and methods and habitat improvement have nothing to do with confining an animal....you should know that as well.

Your explanation is the biggest reason people don't like HF. It's because they just won't admit it restricts deer movement, prevents them from escaping, and inhibits fair chase. They act like it's the same when it's clearly not to anyone with half a brain.

HF hunters biggest enemy with other hunters is themselves.

I don't care if people do it. It's just not how I prefer to hunt and it has nothing to do with the 3 reasons maximus posted....like the majority of people.

Boom what? His entire post was non-sensical and silly.

Chasing deer on 4 wheelers, hands up don't shoot, hunting areas are 1/2 to 1 acre in size, and 1 acre pens? And you "Boom" it?? Lolololol.

You’re part of the problem Doc.... you throw out insults to others that disagree with your opinion of fair chase.....

You’re part of the problem Doc.... you throw out insults to others that disagree with your opinion of fair chase.....

Ya because you missed the entire point. Tell me what escape means????

I never said it didn’t deter dispersal that’s the management point of it. Deterring dispersal is not preventing escape

If you can truly hunt fence line to fence line LF or HF you need to pick a safer spot to hunt.


Again tell me how a HF prevents a deer from escaping you....

Boom what? His entire post was non-sensical and silly.

Chasing deer on 4 wheelers, hands up don't shoot, hunting areas are 1/2 to 1 acre in size, and 1 acre pens? And you "Boom" it?? Lolololol.

it’s point less, They are only here to insult and boost not to share, same methodology as always.

Escape means what it means.....here's the definition for you:

Definition: es·cape

verb: escape; 3rd person present: escapes; past tense: escaped; past participle: escaped; gerund or present participle: escaping

1. break free from confinement or control.



So to answer your question...a HF prevents a deer from escaping confinement and control. That's how it prevents it. This is really elementary stuff guys....

Where was the insult in my post?

And the HF proponents do the same thing....look at Maximus post. I don't see PP saying anything to him about his "insults" or anyone else in this thread. HF hunters are like democrats....they want everyone to be allowed to have their own opinion (or hunting style), except when you disagree with theirs.

I already said I don't care if you want to hunt that way. No sweat off my back. Go buy a deer and put it in your backyard and kill it if you want to. But posts like Bobo's are exactly why people don't like it. LIke I said, HF hunters are their own worst enemy amongst other hunters because of the perception they create for themselves.