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What do yíall use ? Good penetration , expansion , etc.

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With your probable twist rate (1:14), a hand load with 55 gr Sierra Game King Spire Point Boattail.

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the fusions have given us good performance on deer sized game

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Knew this old school hispanic rancher in south Texas did all his hunting with a 55gr soft point, i think just the plain silver box of Winchester. He mostly shot cull bucks and game for meat but he basically head/base of neck shot them all. It was brutally efficient and totally awesome.

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Re: 22-250 hunting ammo [Re: Korean Redneck] #7537201
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Originally Posted by Korean Redneck
Knew this old school hispanic rancher in south Texas did all his hunting with a 55gr soft point, i think just the plain silver box of Winchester. He mostly shot cull bucks and game for meat but he basically head/base of neck shot them all. It was brutally efficient and totally awesome.



I've killed more than a few deer with a 55 grain sierra gameking and a neck shot. That gameking is also a good bullet.

If you can restrict yourself to neck shots with the .22-250 it will serve you.

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my dad's old Sako 22-250 killed a lot of south Texas deer with a 63g Sierra soft point
he was a wicked good shot and hated tracking, I bet 99% were straight down with a neck shot

I have the bug for one, his is in the safe and I don't want to thread the barrel so I am considering options.. a suppressed 22-250 would be fun!


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Re: 22-250 hunting ammo [Re: Thekitch] #7537371
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I'm loading some 50 grain GMX bullets in 22-250 right now. The 50 grain will stabilize in the 1:14" twist barrels well, and even better in the 1:12" twist. The solid bullets offer really good penetration, even for shoulder shots. The varmint style bullets do not work as well for shoulder shots.



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Back in the 80ís, I had less than ideal performance from Varmint bullets on deer. Much better performance from the 63 gr Sierra SMP bullets. This was in my 220, and I was shooting them in the lungs. I was guiding customers back then and was going to let them do all the deer hunting while I stayed in the Jeep and Varmint hunted. But it never failed that Iíd get a radio call to get us a doe to feed the customers. I quit using the Varmint bullets and went to the Sierra 63 gr. There werenít a lot of options back then. And the 63 gr bullet was very accurate (over IMR 4064, if memory serves).

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Originally Posted by txtrophy85
Originally Posted by Korean Redneck
Knew this old school hispanic rancher in south Texas did all his hunting with a 55gr soft point, i think just the plain silver box of Winchester. He mostly shot cull bucks and game for meat but he basically head/base of neck shot them all. It was brutally efficient and totally awesome.



I've killed more than a few deer with a 55 grain sierra gameking and a neck shot. That gameking is also a good bullet.

If you can restrict yourself to neck shots with the .22-250 it will serve you.


Wow! Neck shots! Brings back horrible nightmares. First time in Colorado when I was very young and very inexperienced I stumbled on a nice Muley standing at 10 yds. For some STUPID reason I thought I would get cute and shoot him in the neck with my 3006. He dropped. Second STUPID mistake I set down my rifle and went to take a pic from where I shot. He jumped up and ran off. I trailed very few small drops of blood the rest of the day until my very patient but very bored wife suggested I give up which I did. Yall shoot em where you want but I will never neck shoot a deer again. If you are undergunned and/or have improper bullet and/or can shoot and hit a target that small then more power to you but that's too many ifs ands or buts for me.
As for the OP- I think about anything with decent shot placement will kill a coyote. Same thing on a head shot hog but most everyone would likely agree that a hog shot elsewhere with a 22250 is trouble so go with whatever will penetrate and ill let the experts tell you what that is based on twist etc. As far as a 22250 for deer I would never use one unless it was a recoil conscious novice in which case very carefully placed behind shoulder with something stout that will penetrate. My 2 cents.


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Originally Posted by ChadTRG42
I'm loading some 50 grain GMX bullets in 22-250 right now. The 50 grain will stabilize in the 1:14" twist barrels well, and even better in the 1:12" twist. The solid bullets offer really good penetration, even for shoulder shots. The varmint style bullets do not work as well for shoulder shots.


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if you can't cleanly kill ANY deer in Texas with a 22-250 or 243 you need to spend a LOT of time at the range...


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Originally Posted by ccoker
if you can't cleanly kill ANY deer in Texas with a 22-250 or 243 you need to spend a LOT of time at the range...


True

I have used several different bullets over the years in a 22-250 for deer and the 60gr Nosler Partition when it came out is what I switched to . Had good results with other partitions and this one has never let me down either. Before that bullet I had settled on the Game kings or Nosler 60gr solid base which also worked well. I just have more confidence in taking a shoulder shot with the partition. Head or neck shots doesn't really matter as about any bullet will work, though I did have a 60gr Hornady soft point flatten out against the neck bone on a doe and a half mile plus tracking job to find her.

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Originally Posted by ccoker
if you can't cleanly kill ANY deer in Texas with a 22-250 or 243 you need to spend a LOT of time at the range...


Yup.

And I think the term "neck shot" is way too broad, that is a large area of a deer.

However, if the rifle, ammo, and shooter can hit very small, then just about any bullet in the BRAINSTEM will have a deer dead before it hits the ground. It is how I shoot whitetail does, but not with a .22-250. I'm sure there are plenty of online images showing how to locate the brainstem from any angle.

Broadside, down from the ear noch, back from the jaw line.

Facing toward, go right under the chin.

Facing away, just below a level line connecting the bases of the ears.


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I used Barnes Vortex 50 grain .22-250 last year to kill a turkey, javelina,hog,and a whitetail doe.
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The Sierra 63 Grain SMP is a good choice for the slow twist barrels common in the .22-250.

My Uncle, a .220 Swift fanatic, has killed a supertanker full of deer using 55 Grain Sierra flat base soft points over enough IMR-4064 to get them to 3900! fps. I would still recommend a heavier bullet if it will stabilize in your barrel.

My beloved Nosler 64 Grain BSB takes a 1 in 11.5 twist to stabilize in a .22-250 per the Berger Twist Rate Stability Calculator.

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Originally Posted by freerange
Originally Posted by txtrophy85
Originally Posted by Korean Redneck
Knew this old school hispanic rancher in south Texas did all his hunting with a 55gr soft point, i think just the plain silver box of Winchester. He mostly shot cull bucks and game for meat but he basically head/base of neck shot them all. It was brutally efficient and totally awesome.



I've killed more than a few deer with a 55 grain sierra gameking and a neck shot. That gameking is also a good bullet.

If you can restrict yourself to neck shots with the .22-250 it will serve you.


Wow! Neck shots! Brings back horrible nightmares. First time in Colorado when I was very young and very inexperienced I stumbled on a nice Muley standing at 10 yds. For some STUPID reason I thought I would get cute and shoot him in the neck with my 3006. He dropped. Second STUPID mistake I set down my rifle and went to take a pic from where I shot. He jumped up and ran off. I trailed very few small drops of blood the rest of the day until my very patient but very bored wife suggested I give up which I did. Yall shoot em where you want but I will never neck shoot a deer again. If you are undergunned and/or have improper bullet and/or can shoot and hit a target that small then more power to you but that's too many ifs ands or buts for me.
As for the OP- I think about anything with decent shot placement will kill a coyote. Same thing on a head shot hog but most everyone would likely agree that a hog shot elsewhere with a 22250 is trouble so go with whatever will penetrate and ill let the experts tell you what that is based on twist etc. As far as a 22250 for deer I would never use one unless it was a recoil conscious novice in which case very carefully placed behind shoulder with something stout that will penetrate. My 2 cents.



I've killed dozens of deer with a neck shot.


most of the time, people aim too high, clip the back of the neck. This results in them hitting the deck but getting up and running off, most of the time while a surprised hunter is over them.


I don't use them much anymore, but nothing wrong with a properly executed neck shot

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Originally Posted by FiremanJG
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if you can't cleanly kill ANY deer in Texas with a 22-250 or 243 you need to spend a LOT of time at the range...


Yup.

And I think the term "neck shot" is way too broad, that is a large area of a deer.

However, if the rifle, ammo, and shooter can hit very small, then just about any bullet in the BRAINSTEM will have a deer dead before it hits the ground. It is how I shoot whitetail does, but not with a .22-250. I'm sure there are plenty of online images showing how to locate the brainstem from any angle.

Broadside, down from the ear noch, back from the jaw line.

Facing toward, go right under the chin.

Facing away, just below a level line connecting the bases of the ears.



Ive been hunting over 25 years and have read countless books on hunting, shot placement, etc.


I've never heard or read about a person advocating a "brainstem" shot.

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Well, you have now.

I've stuffed coolers many times with brainstem shots on whitetail does between 70 and 250 yards, and one cow elk at 510 yards.


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Well, you have now.

I've stuffed coolers many times with brainstem shots on whitetail does between 70 and 250 yards, and one cow elk at 510 yards.

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If you hand load, Sierra 63gr Semi-point works excellent. I've probably killed more deer with this bullet than any of my other calibers combined. The Sierra 55gr Spitzer also works well.

If looking for factory rounds, the Winchester Pointed-Soft Point in either 55gr or 64gr works well also. The 64gr is pretty difficult to find, but it does great work on pigs and deer. It stabilized out of my 1:14 twist Remington and my dad's gun just fine.

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yeah the 63g shot one ragged hole groups out of my dad's old Sako (1/14)
I tried some 65g Sierras and they were key holing at 100 yards

ordered some 63g Spitzers from Sierra an back to one hole with a stout load of Varget

I just look at his old Sierra manual from the 80s and his handwritten notes were almost a grain over max with H380


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Based on my trying this and that bullet in my 14 twist 220, hereís what I found, in order of best to worst stabilization:

63 gr Sierra - stabilized and accurate
60 gr Nosler Partition - will stabilize barely in some situations
64 gr Nosler BSB - nope, but I got them on paper
65 gr Sierra GK - Big nope and still have no idea where they went. Never hit paper at 100 yds.

My rifle has a 20Ē barrel, so I donít reach max velocity with any of the mentioned bullets. Iím thinking, but donít know for sure, that if I had a 24Ē barrel and pushed the Partition to the max velocity, it probably would stabilize, though barely, in some rifles. Thatís how close I was to getting that bullet to work.

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