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*** appears they are still pushing poison control from all the questions that were in the survey. not sure how I got picked to do this.

Dear Stephen​ (aka Hetman)

Earlier this week, we invited you to participate in an online survey concerning your opinions on wild pig populations and management in Texas.

If you have already completed this survey, we sincerely thank you for your participation.
If you have not yet completed the survey, please use the information below to access your online survey and submit your responses at your earliest convenience. We are very grateful for your input in this important study.

To access the online survey please click the link below:
Human Dimensions of Wild Pigs

If you have any issues completing the survey or if you would like to receive a paper copy instead, please contact Rachael Connally directly. You may reach Rachael by phone at (979) 583-2205 or by email at rachael.connally@tamu.edu.

Thank you for your help in this important research!

John M. Tomeček, Ph.D.
Principal Investigator
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Extension Wildlife Specialist

Maureen G. Frank, Ph.D.
Co-Investigator
Assistant Professor &
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Rachael L. Connally
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Several have been sent the same email, I received it and people I know received it that are members of this forum and did not take the original survey


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I did it last year and I did it this year. I told them that I thought poison control was a bad idea.


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Mine arrived today, first time. Are the source email addresses from TPWD?


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It looks as if it was to sent to Texas hunting license holders, or at least that seems to have been the polling pool.
And NO to poison


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Received mine yesterday. I didnt receive the earlier invitation referred to in this email. My response to the last one was that poison of any kind is a bad idea! Safe poison is an oxymoron. Many new drugs are advertised as being safe after so called long studies but the dangers of these drug or products are often not recognized until its consumed by a larger segment of the population for a long period of time. By that time its too late,


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I got one and completed it. I certainly don't like the idea of poison either.

Why can't they start some trapping asistance, like they used to with coyotes in sheep and goat areas? If landowners started losing lease hunters BECAUSE of pigs, I bet they'd figure out a way.


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Got the survey too. Their reference to an earlier notification kinda got my attention too--I'm pretty sure that there was no earlier invitation. Interestingly, had a similar "...since-you-didn't-reply-first-time" waterfowl survey from USFWS earlier this year.


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I got mine a couple of days ago and completed it and returned it. I said "NO" to poison even if it was proclaimed to be "humane!"

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Filled mine out with NO to any form of poison

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Last year and this year, they mentioned "safe and humane" poison. So far, there is no safe poison. A safe poison would have to be species species and not cause any problems for any other form of life. Now, they may have a humane poison, but the safety aspect is coming from their delivery systems and the delivery system is a completely different entity than the poison itself. So far, their delivery systems haven't been totally safe.

I don't like the mixing of words.


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Filled it out and said NO to any form of poisons.

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Originally Posted by Double Naught Spy
Last year and this year, they mentioned "safe and humane" poison. So far, there is no safe poison. A safe poison would have to be species species and not cause any problems for any other form of life. Now, they may have a humane poison, but the safety aspect is coming from their delivery systems and the delivery system is a completely different entity than the poison itself. So far, their delivery systems haven't been totally safe.

I don't like the mixing of words.


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1. Lifetime license holder (25 years)
2. Have not received any survey
3. no such thing as a 'safe poison'

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I got the original email and a follow-up. I filled it out and called them out asking specifically if a chemical company was donating to this research program. I know for a fact that they will whore out to anyone that will pay them enough money to their program and get slanted results if it keeps the money flowing.


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Yea, I made sure to relay that I really enjoy the opportunities hog hunting provides me and my young kids. And yea, certainly wouldnt eat hog killed near a location that used poison to control the population.

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3. no such thing as a 'safe poison'


Just about everything is a poison. It just comes down to amount or concentration. Even pure water is poisonous if inhaled and if ingested in sufficient quantities, is poisonous. If ingested in enough quantity, water toxemia occurs, resulting in neurological shutdown.

So technically, if we could overhydrate the pigs to kill them, the poison would be safe. It would not poison the groundwater. It would not kill off other vertebrates. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any way to make this happen with hogs, although people do it to themselves from time to time.

However, the poison being tested last year was not safe, their delivery system failed to keep the poison hog-specific, and hundreds of birds died.
https://www.timesrecordnews.com/sto...eral-hog-poison-testing-texas/629868002/


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So when water boarding pigs you have to take that into consideration.


"Anyone taking up handloading necessarily plays with unknown factors and takes chances. But so does anyone who drives a car,goes to a cocktail party,eats in a restaurant,or gets married."

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Originally Posted by DStroud
So when water boarding pigs you have to take that into consideration.


Lol, do you ever get them to confess the location of the rest of the sounder?

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They have been known to squeal on each other. cheers


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Originally Posted by DStroud
So when water boarding pigs you have to take that into consideration.


LOL, after Gitmo, you know that can't be talked about.


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Originally Posted by DStroud
They have been known to squeal on each other. cheers


We need a facepalm emoji grin

I did laugh though...what did they say when you asked about a chemical company sponsor?


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Originally Posted by Judd
Originally Posted by DStroud
They have been known to squeal on each other. cheers


We need a facepalm emoji grin

I did laugh though...what did they say when you asked about a chemical company sponsor?

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I got the survey and completed it. I said OK to the poison IF it was species specific and non-residual. Of course there is no such thing. At least not yet.


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Originally Posted by Texan Til I Die
I got the survey and completed it. I said OK to the poison IF it was species specific and non-residual. Of course there is no such thing. At least not yet.


Lead poisoning...


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