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06/12/19 03:15 PM
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Ok I did my half of the homework, the SS has 30 mils of elevation. With a 20 moa rail that’s “way way” out there.
For reference my 7-08 is 10.1 mils of elevation for 1000 yards. That confirmed data.
If the Burris doesn’t have more elevation I’d say the 34mm tube is for fashion points. Hard to find but here it is - Features & details Matte black 5-25x50mm Riflescope; length: 16.31 in; weight: 32.10 oz Reticles: G2B Mil-Dot; Objective Lens Diameter: 58mm; Illumination Setting: 11 Brightness Setting Focal plane: fop; main tube size: 34mm; click value: 1/10 mil; 100-click knob Field of View: 21 low-4.3 high (ftat100yds); Eye Relief: 3.5-4.25 in; Exit Pupil: 10 low-2.0 high(mm) Elevation Adjustment total capability: 90 MOA; windage Adjustment: 55 MOA; Battery: CR2032 Elevation - 90 MOA Windage - 55 MOA That is a big difference! I won’t be using the mil dot, but that will not change the adjustment range. MOA and MIL are two different measurements. 90 MOA is 26.67 MILS. So looks like the SFWA will have 4 more MILS or 13.50 MOA of elevation than the Burris has.
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Re: Is this the scope I want?
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06/12/19 03:21 PM
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Re: Is this the scope I want?
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06/12/19 03:34 PM
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Thanks for converting that for me. Mil is still a little Greek to me. My gut is telling me to buy the Burris.
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Re: Is this the scope I want?
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06/12/19 03:48 PM
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You probably want to look at sportoptics.com
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Re: Is this the scope I want?
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06/12/19 04:02 PM
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You will use the Mil reticle. That's how you hold for wind. And the .22lr is affected by every 1 mph of wind.
When time is short, you can use the reticle to hold over for elevation as well. I did that on Kyles varmint stage. 25 yards, 35 yards, 50 yards, 75 yards, 100 yards. You can hold on your zero until you get past 50 yards, then you have to hold elevation, or your bullet will miss low. And the rifle was in such a position, dialing elevation would have been a pain in the rear, and ate up the clock.
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Re: Is this the scope I want?
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06/12/19 04:08 PM
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So it has a mil dot reticle and an moa turret? That would turn me off even if it was a better scope.
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Re: Is this the scope I want?
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06/12/19 04:19 PM
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So it has a mil dot reticle and an moa turret? That would turn me off even if it was a better scope. No, it has a Mil reticle and Mil turret. Just don't think Cast is familiar with all the terms just yet.
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Re: Is this the scope I want?
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06/12/19 04:24 PM
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So it has a mil dot reticle and an moa turret? That would turn me off even if it was a better scope. No that was the wrong scope/reticle. Here is the proper model info - Features & details N/A Made in USA Field of view: 21 low-4.3High feet at 100 yards Tube diameter: 34mm Click value: 1/10 mil Product information SCR Mil, Mil based SCR, Mt Black Product Dimensions 20 x 5 x 4 inches Item Weight 3.5 pounds Shipping Weight 3.5 pounds Department unisex-adult Manufacturer Burris ASIN B00U1AV1W0 Manufacturer reference 201051 Batteries 1 Lithium Metal batteries required. (included) Customer Reviews 4.5 out of 5 stars 19Reviews Best Sellers Rank 336928 Date first listed on Amazon January 10, 2015 Weight is 3.5 pounds for this model.
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Re: Is this the scope I want?
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06/12/19 04:31 PM
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So it has a mil dot reticle and an moa turret? That would turn me off even if it was a better scope. Burris knows better than that. As does most manufacturers these days.
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Re: Is this the scope I want?
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06/12/19 04:34 PM
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That does look like a deal. The Burris XTR Sig rings are serious rings. They are low but if you call to order they will swap them for me. What height y’all reckon I will need?
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Re: Is this the scope I want?
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06/12/19 04:36 PM
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Most manufacturers "medium".
It is a damn shame there is no industry standard. Every manufacturer has a different measurement for low, medium, high, extra high.
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Re: Is this the scope I want?
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06/12/19 04:40 PM
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Most manufacturers "medium".
It is a damn shame there is no industry standard. Every manufacturer has a different measurement for low, medium, high, extra high. Here is the data on the rings. LinkWill you sign off on these rings?
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Re: Is this the scope I want?
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06/12/19 04:41 PM
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That does look like a deal. The Burris XTR Sig rings are serious rings. They are low but if you call to order they will swap them for me. What height y’all reckon I will need? Yes call and change them to medium. Every manufacturer has a different measurement for low, medium, high, extra high. Pain in the [censored]!
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This scope and rings are new too. Not demos. Does not really matter but there it is.
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Re: Is this the scope I want?
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06/12/19 04:46 PM
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So it has a mil dot reticle and an moa turret? That would turn me off even if it was a better scope. No, it has a Mil reticle and Mil turret. Just don't think Cast is familiar with all the terms just yet. Absolutely! But this is a real learning experience. I finally actually understand the first focal plane difference and what that does for me. This will be my first non Leupold scope.
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Re: Is this the scope I want?
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06/12/19 04:47 PM
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Most manufacturers "medium".
It is a damn shame there is no industry standard. Every manufacturer has a different measurement for low, medium, high, extra high. Here is the data on the rings. LinkWill you sign off on these rings? I give them a B+ You have to have the right Torx drive to get them on and off. With Talley Tactical or Badger you need a 1/2" socket or wrench. Or hell, I've used a Crescent wrench many times.
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Re: Is this the scope I want?
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06/12/19 04:49 PM
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They are a better ring than Talley or Badger. I keep one of those Torx wrenches if my truck if you ever need one 
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Re: Is this the scope I want?
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06/12/19 04:57 PM
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They have Talley Tactical but not Badger. They will not let me get credit towards Talley.
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06/12/19 05:07 PM
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So close, so close. Do not like the backorder. ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2019/06/full-10648-190370-2fe19b59_7e1a_4e5a_9578_b9315b804120.png)
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Re: Is this the scope I want?
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06/12/19 05:13 PM
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Those free rings will do it for free and .22, they aren’t bad like some rings.
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Re: Is this the scope I want?
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06/12/19 05:13 PM
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They are a better ring than Talley or Badger. I keep one of those Torx wrenches if my truck if you ever need one What do you know? Bring me Vortex scopes, bullets the wrong color, and a rifle that's wobbling. Run a lap.
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Re: Is this the scope I want?
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06/12/19 05:23 PM
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I could just grab those Badger demos at SWFA.
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They are a better ring than Talley or Badger. I keep one of those Torx wrenches if my truck if you ever need one What do you know? Bring me Vortex scopes, bullets the wrong color, and a rifle that's wobbling. Run a lap. Ain't a thing wrong with Vortex scopes....yes, they make bullets that don't have gay [censored] tips on them and that wobbling don't hurt a thing  I might've embellished that last part. The rings require no lapping, won't mark up your scope and should you need more elevation you can do it with the rings. They are a better ring.
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They are a better ring than Talley or Badger. I keep one of those Torx wrenches if my truck if you ever need one What do you know? Bring me Vortex scopes, bullets the wrong color, and a rifle that's wobbling. Run a lap. Ain't a thing wrong with Vortex scopes....yes, they make bullets that don't have gay [censored] tips on them and that wobbling don't hurt a thing I might've embellished that last part. The rings require no lapping, won't mark up your scope and should you need more elevation you can do it with the rings. They are a better ring. I use sig rings on all my rifles. They are good. But because I will move this scope around. The torx screw heads would eventually get ragged. I like the 1/2” hex much better in this application.
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