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Re: Working Dog Breed Suggestion [Re: Struggle] #7480176 04/07/19 01:40 AM
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Certain breeds are clearly more prone

Mals, yes they are high strung protection dogs. I dang near got ate once by one

Our Chihuahua, yes honestly every bite be gave he was right in his mind and mine. I could explain but he was doing his job

My mom is near 60, she had a chihuahua as a kid and she told me theirs was the same way

That Red Heeler I mentioned earlier, wouldnít kill a fly. Raise your voice around my wife and Katy bar the door. That was her one person. She would lose her mind. Such a great dog



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On my first German Shepherd and I don't know if I'll ever own a different breed from here on.

Incredibly smart and very instinctively protective..

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Originally Posted by Struggle
I tried to quote your previous quote but canít do 4 quotes.

Iím not talking about puppies or being ridiculous, anything that has a mouth bites, including the lab.

Was it their fault? Absolutely not, itís their owners fault for putting them in a position that it was uncomfortable with. Itís our responsibility to know the animal and take appropriate actions to protect them and our guests.

Ex: You bring known/unknown people over, out of the ordinary activities, lots of food and drink and itís not their normal environment. Youíve asked more than the dog can handle/provide and they lash out to protect their normal environment. Their normal environment could be laying on their bed in their safe place and have a ďstrangerĒ to them walk by and try to pet or hug them. That is their space and they are going to do what they feel is necessary to protect it, whether itís out of fear (more than likely), scared or rattled.

At the end of the day itís not the dogs fault, itís the owners fault for not recognizing the situation and taking steps to protect the dog. Itís our responsibility to not put them in that position.


Edit: was that example about a lab specifically? Is that why you think labs bite kids?

Youíre 100% right. All puppies have the ability to ďbiteĒ kids. You said labs bite kids in a thread where youíre looking for a dog breed to buy. I was just wondering why you responded to a simple post about buying a lab puppy with ďthey bite kids.Ē It made it seem like labs have a history of mailing children, which is not my experience or understanding. You also asked about some pretty protective breeds, but then said youíre ok with muzzling and kenneling when visitors come over. Seemed odd to me.

Good luck in your search. [/quote]

Youíre absolutely right, I see where youíre coming from.[/quote]

My question was about your direct response to the suggestion you get a lab. You said they bite children. Thatís what Iím asking about. What, in your experience, says labs are bad because they bite children?

It seemed like an odd response to the lab suggestion, especially after you said youíre not shy about putting a muzzle on a dog when company is over. Thatís all. In my experience, and research, Iíve never heard that labs are prone to biting children. Thatís why I asked.


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I just turned it on . I was looking bird dogs in the butt this morning.


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I tried to quote your previous quote but canít do 4 quotes.

Iím not talking about puppies or being ridiculous, anything that has a mouth bites, including the lab.

Was it their fault? Absolutely not, itís their owners fault for putting them in a position that it was uncomfortable with. Itís our responsibility to know the animal and take appropriate actions to protect them and our guests.

Ex: You bring known/unknown people over, out of the ordinary activities, lots of food and drink and itís not their normal environment. Youíve asked more than the dog can handle/provide and they lash out to protect their normal environment. Their normal environment could be laying on their bed in their safe place and have a ďstrangerĒ to them walk by and try to pet or hug them. That is their space and they are going to do what they feel is necessary to protect it, whether itís out of fear (more than likely), scared or rattled.

At the end of the day itís not the dogs fault, itís the owners fault for not recognizing the situation and taking steps to protect the dog. Itís our responsibility to not put them in that position.


Edit: was that example about a lab specifically? Is that why you think labs bite kids?

Youíre 100% right. All puppies have the ability to ďbiteĒ kids. You said labs bite kids in a thread where youíre looking for a dog breed to buy. I was just wondering why you responded to a simple post about buying a lab puppy with ďthey bite kids.Ē It made it seem like labs have a history of mailing children, which is not my experience or understanding. You also asked about some pretty protective breeds, but then said youíre ok with muzzling and kenneling when visitors come over. Seemed odd to me.

Good luck in your search.


Youíre absolutely right, I see where youíre coming from.[/quote]

My question was about your direct response to the suggestion you get a lab. You said they bite children. Thatís what Iím asking about. What, in your experience, says labs are bad because they bite children?

It seemed like an odd response to the lab suggestion, especially after you said youíre not shy about putting a muzzle on a dog when company is over. Thatís all. In my experience, and research, Iíve never heard that labs are prone to biting children. Thatís why I asked. [/quote]

First off i shouldnít of singled labs out, even though my experiences have been that labs have bitten more people than other breeds that Iíve been around.

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Ok, a lab bit a kid

Iíve been around many, those dogs arenít anywhere close to an aggressive breed


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Originally Posted by procraft05
Ok, a lab bit a kid

Iíve been around many, those dogs arenít anywhere close to an aggressive breed


Youíre absolutely right as long as you donít put them in a position where they are uncomfortable. My Bassett Hound is the best dog ever until you touch his feet or go towards my wife.

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I vote Australian shepard

Re: Working Dog Breed Suggestion [Re: Struggle] #7480262 04/07/19 02:59 AM
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We could have avoided a lot of typing if youíd just said, ďIíve been around labs that have had social anxiety and didnít like being around a lot of people or new people around their bed.Ē

Which is a training issue 99% of the time and not at all the norm for labradors. Iím sorry you had a bad experience with a lab, but thatís an anomaly, not the norm. They are very social by nature.


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I just turned it on . I was looking bird dogs in the butt this morning.


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Originally Posted by Duck_Hunter
We could have avoided a lot of typing if youíd just said, ďIíve been around labs that have had social anxiety and didnít like being around a lot of people or new people around their bed.Ē

Which is a training issue 99% of the time and not at all the norm for labradors. Iím sorry you had a bad experience with a lab, but thatís an anomaly, not the norm. They are very social by nature.


You could say that about damn near any breed.... Which I did.

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I told you my wife want a mini Australian Shepherd and thatís fine.

We are dog people

But I have kids, neices and nephews...and they have little friends

I just wonít own a dog that can seriously hurt them

That list is prob 5-10 deep.

Id love to have another Sable Shepherd


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Originally Posted by procraft05
I told you my wife want a mini Australian Shepherd and thatís fine.

We are dog people

But I have kids, neices and nephews...and they have little friends

I just wonít own a dog that can seriously hurt them

That list is prob 5-10 deep.

Id love to have another Sable Shepherd

Are you worried about the dog nipping the kiddos while trying to herd them?

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Lab.

They bite little kids.


You said it about this breed, but carry on. You want a dog to protect your house and itís occupants, but youíre afraid a lab might bite your kids. Good luck with your search. Hope whatever protective breed you get you have professionally trained.


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I just turned it on . I was looking bird dogs in the butt this morning.


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Originally Posted by Struggle
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I told you my wife want a mini Australian Shepherd and thatís fine.

We are dog people

But I have kids, neices and nephews...and they have little friends

I just wonít own a dog that can seriously hurt them

That list is prob 5-10 deep.

Id love to have another Sable Shepherd

Are you worried about the dog nipping the kiddos while trying to herd them?


Yes, that lineage runs 1000ís of years

Sometimes things happen that was in his/her DNA just out of your control

For example, that Heeler I watched round up about 5-6 of my neighbors roping horses. We had 10 acres, they had Iíd guess 20

I couldnít get to her soon enough. Had they of ran thru the barbed wire fence Iíd have been in trouble

We donít own horses, never have. She just knew. She had them in a circle, nipping hooves

She was smart

That Shepherd was ALWAYS on guard. My kids were babes and would ride him (he was 90lbs)

Come near those kids, heíd take a man down and Iím serious.

I watched him once break a racoon in half that he caught on our porch.





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Lab.

They bite little kids.


You said it about this breed, but carry on. You want a dog to protect your house and itís occupants, but youíre afraid a lab might bite your kids. Good luck with your search. Hope whatever protective breed you get you have professionally trained.


Roger that, I donít have the vocabulary to portray my thoughts so that you can understand, I truly wish I could. If youíre ever in the Dallas area Iíd be more than happy to buy you drink so we can try to understand each other.

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Originally Posted by procraft05
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I told you my wife want a mini Australian Shepherd and thatís fine.

We are dog people

But I have kids, neices and nephews...and they have little friends

I just wonít own a dog that can seriously hurt them

That list is prob 5-10 deep.

Id love to have another Sable Shepherd

Are you worried about the dog nipping the kiddos while trying to herd them?


Yes, that lineage runs 1000ís of years

Sometimes things happen that was in his/her DNA just out of your control

For example, that Heeler I watched round up about 5-6 of my neighbors roping horses. We had 10 acres, they had Iíd guess 20

I couldnít get to her soon enough. Had they of ran thru the barbed wire fence Iíd have been in trouble

We donít own horses, never have. She just knew. She had them in a circle, nipping hooves

She was smart

That Shepherd was ALWAYS on guard. My kids were babes and would ride him (he was 90lbs)

Come near those kids, heíd take a man down and Iím serious.

I watched him once break a racoon in half that he caught on our porch.




Thatís a dog worth sharing time with.

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Lab.

They bite little kids.


You said it about this breed, but carry on. You want a dog to protect your house and itís occupants, but youíre afraid a lab might bite your kids. Good luck with your search. Hope whatever protective breed you get you have professionally trained.


Roger that, I donít have the vocabulary to portray my thoughts so that you can understand, I truly wish I could. If youíre ever in the Dallas area Iíd be more than happy to buy you drink so we can try to understand each other.


Iím down. Same goes if youíre ever in the Fort Worth area.


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I just turned it on . I was looking bird dogs in the butt this morning.


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WTF lol. Labs are the next pitbuls according to snuggles rofl


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Originally Posted by 2Beez
WTF lol. Labs are the next pitbuls according to snuggles rofl

June 15th baby, you, me and my Lab!

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WTF lol. Labs are the next pitbuls according to snuggles rofl

June 15th baby, you, me and my Lab!

and bring the guy whose name is too long to type out as well smile

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WTF lol. Labs are the next pitbuls according to snuggles rofl

June 15th baby, you, me and my Lab!

and bring the guy whose name is too long to type out as well smile


That is Kyle's monkey so I will not put my fingerprints on that football. I guarantee that Lab will not bite me and my little GSD would be just fine with you. All in how you raise them I agree but ours was a rescue and we missed out on some crucial time.


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WTF lol. Labs are the next pitbuls according to snuggles rofl

June 15th baby, you, me and my Lab!

and bring the guy whose name is too long to type out as well smile


That is Kyle's monkey so I will not put my fingerprints on that football. I guarantee that Lab will not bite me and my little GSD would be just fine with you. All in how you raise them I agree but ours was a rescue and we missed out on some crucial time.


Lol, not to get personal but are you color blind with bad depth perception? My chocolate (not brown) lab (half the size) is a true PITA.

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I know I was not the only one. All good cheers Labs are a PITA and no shoe is safe for awhile. Never met an aggressive lab though


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I know I was not the only one. All good cheers Labs are a PITA and no shoe is safe for awhile. Never met an aggressive lab though

Youíre getting a hug if I ever run into you!

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I know I was not the only one. All good cheers Labs are a PITA and no shoe is safe for awhile. Never met an aggressive lab though

Youíre getting a hug if I ever run into you!


Throw a decoy at me and all bets are off... rofl


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I know I was not the only one. All good cheers Labs are a PITA and no shoe is safe for awhile. Never met an aggressive lab though

Youíre getting a hug if I ever run into you!


Throw a decoy at me and all bets are off... rofl


Bwahahaha!!!!! Thatís good stuff there.

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