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Is .223 too small for hogs? #7466854 03/24/19 05:04 AM
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Well what about a 22-250? Is that a one shot and done kind of round for hogs?

My son threaded a 22-250 through some brush to get this boar to drop in his bed.
To top it off, we used an X-sight gen 1 to do it!!

I know, not the best option but we got out there only to find my thermal scope was dead (batteries I hope) and the only other option was the 22-250 with the XSight. He hand held the flashlight and could see nothing but the blinking eyes. I was behind the thermal hand held and watched as the boar went from laying down to standing staring right at the light and was worried he was going to bolt. Next thing I know and it was a bang flop. DRT with a 22-250 perfectly between the eyes. Its his first pig in a while and we got rained out last week on a pig hunt, so he was happy.

We dodged a tornado but got to see some pretty ominous looking funnel cloud action, waited out some hail, and decided to hit the site later than we would normally but our patience paid off. Been seeing this guy for a while so its good for him to go.

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Re: Is .223 too small for hogs? [Re: Texas buckeye] #7466907 03/24/19 11:36 AM
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One shot kills are more placement. Good job


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Originally Posted by earl39
One shot kills are more placement. Good job

Indeed, there aren't any hogs that will walk away from a centerfire rifle shot between the eyes!

Nicely done.


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Good job on the hog!!! Adversity is a common theme in the era of electro-optics.


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Re: Is .223 too small for hogs? [Re: Texas buckeye] #7467724 03/25/19 12:57 AM
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Wild to you know it, the Sounder we were after shows up about 30 minutes after we left. Go figure.

Fodder for next time

Re: Is .223 too small for hogs? [Re: Texas buckeye] #7467903 03/25/19 02:41 AM
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Ive shot lots of pigs with my 22.250 and it has always worked quite well for me

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Re: Is .223 too small for hogs? [Re: der Teufel] #7468049 03/25/19 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by der Teufel
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One shot kills are more placement. Good job

Indeed, there aren't any hogs that will walk away from a centerfire rifle shot between the eyes!

Nicely done.
IDK, hog hunters on my place have shot 3 hogs this year. All 3 said they hit right between the eyes, knocking them down then running off. Never found any of them. IMO, between the eyes is a bad shot. Seen to many times over the years that the bullet just glances off. But, if you put it in the ear hole, they don't run off.

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If your .223 has a faster twist rate barrel, there are some heavier pills you can sling at the hogs. Hornady V-Max is one. Range, size of hog, and shot placement are the keys to DRT from a .223.

Re: Is .223 too small for hogs? [Re: Texas buckeye] #7468361 03/25/19 03:33 PM
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With the right shot placement - it'll do the trick. I'd suggest something a little larger, however, there are many thousands of hogs are taken each year with 223.

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I experimented with the 6.5 Grendel for a while and the hogs I killed with it would have been just as dead as any hit with a 223. All CNS hits.

Re: Is .223 too small for hogs? [Re: Texas buckeye] #7468977 03/26/19 01:13 AM
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Just for the record, I dont like a shot between the eyes. I prefer a behind the ear side shot which renders hogs a pulsating mass of tick infested muscle and fur....however, due to the inside the brush location and the method of shooting being used (X-sight with illuminator) the only shot possible was a shot between the eyes as thats all we could see. Had he been out in the open we would have gotten our preferred CNS behind the ear shot.

Just saying you dont need anything super heavy with correct shot placement, as has been mentioned many times above, but I dont believe anyone is arguing that either.

Carry on and keep gettin em

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I've killed many with a .223.I like the earhole shot better because it is much more forgiving. You can miss a little in any direction and still get a quick kill. It's just too easy to miss trying the between the eyes shot. They move a lot and misses are too common with any caliber when you try to thread the needle.

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Originally Posted by sqiggy

IDK, hog hunters on my place have shot 3 hogs this year. All 3 said they hit right between the eyes, knocking them down then running off. Never found any of them. IMO, between the eyes is a bad shot. Seen to many times over the years that the bullet just glances off. But, if you put it in the ear hole, they don't run off.


But, if those hogs weren't recovered, there's no way of knowing where they were really hit. I often think I've made a good shot only to find the bullet didn't hit where I thought it had.

I readily admit that I'm an average shot at best.

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The only reason I switched from 223 to 6.8 is because of safety. I hunt alone in the SHNF and can be a mile or 2 back in the woods with nobody around. I really dont like the idea of shooting a pig at close range and wounding it and having it get up and charge me after I shoot it. I just dont have confidence in that round on hogs. The time I decided to switch was when I made a good shot in the shoulder and the hog never stopped. just kept on going. That was it for me!

Sure shoot them in the ear. That is easier said than done sometimes. Especially at very low light situations on a moving target. There is no baiting so most of my shots are on moving targets.

I pass on 556/223. Good for coyotes for sure!!!


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You are clearly lying! From the photos, I can tell that you didn't use a 22-250. You used a 50BMG and just missed, sucking his eyball out of the socket and killing him with the shockwave of the bullet passing by his head!


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Re: Is .223 too small for hogs? [Re: Texas buckeye] #7469997 03/26/19 11:49 PM
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Unclebubba, you nailed it. I actually told him to miss to see what happens. Wasnt expecting to kill three cows in the neighbors pasture 2 miles away though hammer

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It's more about placement and bullet construction. I've used .223 on hogs. When I was using varmint bullets, it took a couple of shots. When I switched to a Sierra Game King (both were 55 gr), I made one shot kills, even in the shoulder.

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For the first shot, about any caliber will do. Once the sounder is alerted by the first shot, you really need some heavier ammo to take them down. Head shots on running hogs ain't easy.




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Re: Is .223 too small for hogs? [Re: Texas buckeye] #7475094 04/01/19 09:06 PM
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Want a one hit and down? Get the new supper dupper deluxe 20lb 2 wheel cannon. That 20lb chunk of lead will stop almost any pig you are likely to encounter as long as you hit it solid.


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Originally Posted by JDP Ranch
With the right shot placement - it'll do the trick. I'd suggest something a little larger, however, there are many thousands of hogs are taken each year with 223.



^^^^^ THIS

Though I won't necessarily suggest something larger. Ive killed the vast majority of my hogs with various .223s, but as everyone has said, shot placement trumps all...

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Originally Posted by sqiggy
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One shot kills are more placement. Good job

Indeed, there aren't any hogs that will walk away from a centerfire rifle shot between the eyes!

Nicely done.
IDK, hog hunters on my place have shot 3 hogs this year. All 3 said they hit right between the eyes, knocking them down then running off. Never found any of them. IMO, between the eyes is a bad shot. Seen to many times over the years that the bullet just glances off. But, if you put it in the ear hole, they don't run off.


I don't put a lot of faith into claimed POI without recovery of the animal. There is nothing like a good flinch to radically alter the POA to an unintended POI. With electro-optics these days, revealing such hunter shortcomings takes away many claims of great shots or super hogs. That isn't to say that shots cannot glance off, but glancing shots seems to be an overused excuse which is handy dandy because it can virtually never be contradicted with any evidence. All that exists are claims.


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Originally Posted by Double Naught Spy
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One shot kills are more placement. Good job

Indeed, there aren't any hogs that will walk away from a centerfire rifle shot between the eyes!

Nicely done.
IDK, hog hunters on my place have shot 3 hogs this year. All 3 said they hit right between the eyes, knocking them down then running off. Never found any of them. IMO, between the eyes is a bad shot. Seen to many times over the years that the bullet just glances off. But, if you put it in the ear hole, they don't run off.


I don't put a lot of faith into claimed POI without recovery of the animal. There is nothing like a good flinch to radically alter the POA to an unintended POI. With electro-optics these days, revealing such hunter shortcomings takes away many claims of great shots or super hogs. That isn't to say that shots cannot glance off, but glancing shots seems to be an overused excuse which is handy dandy because it can virtually never be contradicted with any evidence. All that exists are claims.

All I can say, when the hunter says he saw dust fly off the top of the head, knocked the hog down, only to get up and run off, is pretty much a glancing blow. I have only taken one shot between the eyes at a short distance with a gun I KNOW is on only to watch it run. I've shot them with a 22 in the ear hole and dropped them like a rock.

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Well, you should not try to shoot them between the eyes when their nose is up. You do it when the nose is down so that you are shooting more at the flat of the head. Doing otherwise is not a problem with the location of the shot, but the orientation of the shot and that is on the shooter.

I have made several between-the-eyes shots and not had a problem with any hog taking off on me.

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