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Boeing 737 Max
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03/24/19 01:19 AM
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If Boeing says they've fixed the issue with this aircraft and the FAA signs off, will you be comfortable getting on one?
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Re: Boeing 737 Max
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03/24/19 01:22 AM
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Re: Boeing 737 Max
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03/24/19 01:27 AM
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Just ask if they paid for the two safeties that are extra and may be the cause of the two that crashed that didn't have them
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Re: Boeing 737 Max
[Re: jetdad]
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03/24/19 01:41 AM
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With like American or Southwest sure.
To be determined
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Re: Boeing 737 Max
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03/24/19 01:43 AM
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I would fly in one.
Pilots where the US carriers fly the 737 Max 8s know how to fly.
I am a pilot who knows many ATP pilots. I know no one who flies the Max 8, but US carrier pilots know how to turn off the autopilot and fly the damn airplane.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max
[Re: jetdad]
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03/24/19 01:47 AM
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Was on a recent trip. Going out was on one of these. Coming back, same thing, was the day they were grounded. Southwest Airlines. What are the odds that out of their large fleet I'd be on one of them (they have 37 I think) twice in a matter of a few days.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max
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03/24/19 01:56 AM
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I would fly in one. Last I heard they are still looking to see what caused the 2nd crash. Still thousands of times safer than getting in your car.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max
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03/24/19 02:07 AM
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Was on a recent trip. Going out was on one of these. Coming back, same thing, was the day they were grounded. Southwest Airlines. What are the odds that out of their large fleet I'd be on one them of them (they have 37 I think) twice in a matter of a few days. Were you flying out of Miami?
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Re: Boeing 737 Max
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03/24/19 02:11 AM
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Re: Boeing 737 Max
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03/24/19 02:17 AM
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With like American or Southwest sure. Same here. I sold a home not too many years ago to a Southwest pilot. His prior job was flying F-18s in the Navy. I bet the foreign carriers can't recruit that kind of skill.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max
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03/24/19 02:17 AM
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Were you flying out of Miami? No.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max
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03/24/19 02:21 AM
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With like American or Southwest sure. Same here. I sold a home not too many years ago to a Southwest pilot. His prior job was flying F-18s in the Navy. I bet the foreign carriers can't recruit that kind of skill. Or the military pilot who has flown the heavy stuff through all sorts of conditions.
To be determined
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Re: Boeing 737 Max
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03/24/19 02:26 AM
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With like American or Southwest sure. Same here. I sold a home not too many years ago to a Southwest pilot. His prior job was flying F-18s in the Navy. I bet the foreign carriers can't recruit that kind of skill. Or the military pilot who has flown the heavy stuff through all sorts of conditions. ...while getting shot at.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max
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03/24/19 02:47 AM
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With like American or Southwest sure. Same here. I sold a home not too many years ago to a Southwest pilot. His prior job was flying F-18s in the Navy. I bet the foreign carriers can't recruit that kind of skill. Or the military pilot who has flown the heavy stuff through all sorts of conditions. ...while getting shot at. The thing is....when that plane gets thrown all over the place, gets in a stall, whatever......that F18 pilot has "been there done that, a lot."
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Re: Boeing 737 Max
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03/24/19 03:30 AM
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Was on a recent trip. Going out was on one of these. Coming back, same thing, was the day they were grounded. Southwest Airlines. What are the odds that out of their large fleet I'd be on one them of them (they have 37 I think) twice in a matter of a few days. Especially when the Max8 was only 5% of their fleet.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max
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03/24/19 03:46 AM
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An F18 stall is not common. The really bad thing is termed a departure.
To be determined
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Re: Boeing 737 Max
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03/24/19 04:51 AM
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Just ask if they paid for the two safeties that are extra and may be the cause of the two that crashed that didn't have them That seems equivalent to charging extra for an emergency brake on a car or truck. Knowing how long emergency brakes have been standard equipment on vehicles, it blows my mind that an aircraft manufacturer would charge extra for anything that might result in a crash if not available. "Need landing lights? That will cost extra. Need an airspeed indicator? That will cost you extra. Need an alarm that tells you the airspeed indicator has failed so the auto-pilot doesn't put you in a nose dive? That will cost you extra." Ridiculous. Smells to me that Boeing and others have been dictating to the FAA the rules on how they will design and sell airplanes to their customers.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max
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03/24/19 12:37 PM
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Just ask if they paid for the two safeties that are extra and may be the cause of the two that crashed that didn't have them That seems equivalent to charging extra for an emergency brake on a car or truck. Knowing how long emergency brakes have been standard equipment on vehicles, it blows my mind that an aircraft manufacturer would charge extra for anything that might result in a crash if not available. "Need landing lights? That will cost extra. Need an airspeed indicator? That will cost you extra. Need an alarm that tells you the airspeed indicator has failed so the auto-pilot doesn't put you in a nose dive? That will cost you extra." Ridiculous. Smells to me that Boeing and others have been dictating to the FAA the rules on how they will design and sell airplanes to their customers. Not exactly how that works. If you want your aircraft certified in certain ways it has to have certain equipment. Everything you add to a aircraft adds weight, so if it is something you don't use, why would you want it add it to your aircraft. We operate hundreds of aircraft and most of them are set up differently for different jobs. It isn't like buying a car, but some things are standard, like airspeed indicators and parking brakes, unless your aircraft does not have wheels.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max
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03/24/19 01:27 PM
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I flew Southwest to NO and back for Mardi Gras. We were on 737's, pretty sure they were MAX because of the huge engines. I think the US companies do enough training that they are safe to fly, so yes I would fly on one again.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max
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03/24/19 01:29 PM
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No, I don't like those big planes.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max
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03/24/19 01:30 PM
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If Boeing says they've fixed the issue with this aircraft and the FAA signs off, will you be comfortable getting on one? Yes
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Re: Boeing 737 Max
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03/24/19 02:31 PM
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Was on a recent trip. Going out was on one of these. Coming back, same thing, was the day they were grounded. Southwest Airlines. What are the odds that out of their large fleet I'd be on one them of them (they have 37 I think) twice in a matter of a few days. Especially when the Max8 was only 5% of their fleet. It is not surprising. They use the same airplanes on the same routes routinely.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max
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04/04/19 01:33 PM
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Not smelling good for the FAA and Boeing. The report at the link below offers a video and third-party perspective of the problem suspected in two crashes over the last five months. Link
Last edited by Texas Dan; 04/04/19 01:45 PM.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max
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04/04/19 10:18 PM
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Re: Boeing 737 Max
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04/04/19 11:08 PM
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This cannot be fixed at the voting booth.. Wake Up You Morons!
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