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Not really bunker, legislation but a General ? #7465500 03/22/19 09:28 PM
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Letís hypothetically say The US decides to ban all firearms.
Simply, would you comply?

I personally donít have any guns, just want to see what the masses would do.

I feel a lot would hunker down and see what happens. Resistance would be futile in the real world. I know a few people would not comply ( like fighting to the death) , but I believe they would be few and far between.

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If all legal gun owners publicly say NO, then it will not even be attempted.


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Re: Not really bunker, legislation but a General ? [Re: Superduty] #7465532 03/22/19 10:12 PM
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Ever read about the battle of Athens (Tenn. not Greece)?

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Originally Posted by FiremanJG
If all legal gun owners publicly say NO, then it will not even be attempted.


This


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Originally Posted by 9x19
Ever read about the battle of Athens (Tenn. not Greece)?



Yep and this.


And no, resistance would not be futile, in the real world.

Remember, we have more legal guns than we have people. Legal gun owners will not let their guns go. Illegal gun owners are already outside the law so there is that.

Every time a government has disarmed it's citizens, it abused it's power shortly thereafter. Now we know better.

Most gun owners will pribably just hide their guns just in case it happens again. And it probably would.

But the government will nit disarm us in my lifetime, I don't think. In another century maybe, in the next 200 years? I think it's likely. And within anither decade after that all hell will break loose.


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Funny how many people think resistance would be futile. If that were the case, the war on terror would be over or might have never happened. And the people of Afghanistan would probably speak Russian.


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And let's not forget about border security. You mean to tell me, we can't even lockdown our borders, they think a wall will fix it, and we have no hope against the government if it wants to disarm it's citizens?

And let me tell you, in ten years in the Infantry I have not met a single 11B that would side with the government if it tried.


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Sometimes itís easier to conform, especially if you have family or live in the City.

But again, no worries here.

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Many would comply. I will not be one of that particular many.


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So letís say you donít comply.

Then there will be snitches.

Also,if you defend your home/ Life with your illegal contraband, then you will be most likely just as at fault. I know you will be alive but not going well for your future.

(just playing devils advocate)

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Originally Posted by Superduty
Sometimes itís easier to conform, especially if you have family or live in the City.

But again, no worries here.

If you are not willing to fight for your freedom you don't deserve to have it.

That's your opinion, thank God we had brave men that didn't feel the same. flag

I will never submit to tyranny regardless of how much danger comes my way or my family's.


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Sometimes itís easier to conform, especially if you have family or live in the City.

But again, no worries here.

If you are not willing to fight for your freedom you don't deserve to have it.

That's your opinion, thank God we had brave men that didn't feel the same. flag

I will never submit to tyranny regardless of how much danger comes my way or my family's.


I agree 100%.

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Originally Posted by Superduty
So letís say you donít comply.

Then there will be snitches.

Also,if you defend your home/ Life with your illegal contraband, then you will be most likely just as at fault. I know you will be alive but not going well for your future.

(just playing devils advocate)




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ďLet us hope our weapons are never needed Ė but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government Ė and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws.Ē
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ďLet us hope our weapons are never needed Ė but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government Ė and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws.Ē
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I have always believed there are some things worth dying for or going to jail. I also have learned that YOU are responsible for what you will allow to happen to YOU. Has served me well through lifeís journey so far.

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I donít see it happining any time soon or within my life time for sure. But I do see incremental losses with assault AR giggles and semi auto hand guns going first. After they get that it will not stop till you cannot own a BB gun. No I would not comply with a mantatory turn in your weapons, but would not resort to violence when they came to get them. If it comes down to them searching house to house for firearms and confiscating them all is lost anyway.

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ďLet us hope our weapons are never needed Ė but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government Ė and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws.Ē
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That's all there is to it.


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Originally Posted by Erny
I donít see it happining any time soon or within my life time for sure. But I do see incremental losses with assault AR giggles and semi auto hand guns going first. After they get that it will not stop till you cannot own a BB gun. No I would not comply with a mantatory turn in your weapons, but would not resort to violence when they came to get them. If it comes down to them searching house to house for firearms and confiscating them all is lost anyway.


Not going to be a very long list of people that are signing up to do the confiscations.....Ruby Ridge and Waco will look like girlscout picnics compared to the reaction if a nationwide confiscation is ordered.

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I donít see it happining any time soon or within my life time for sure. But I do see incremental losses with assault AR giggles and semi auto hand guns going first. After they get that it will not stop till you cannot own a BB gun. No I would not comply with a mantatory turn in your weapons, but would not resort to violence when they came to get them. If it comes down to them searching house to house for firearms and confiscating them all is lost anyway.


Not going to be a very long list of people that are signing up to do the confiscations.....Ruby Ridge and Waco will look like girlscout picnics compared to the reaction if a nationwide confiscation is ordered.


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How was the United States founded? Lots of lives were lost, but they died for us today. Thanks to them I get to enjoy my luxury(even though itís not much). Owners will stand together and fight in numbers.


I honestly believe it wonít get to the point of gun grabbing, I believe itís a scare tactic and a double edge sword.

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Originally Posted by DeRico
How was the United States founded? Lots of lives were lost, but they died for us today. Thanks to them I get to enjoy my luxury(even though itís not much). Owners will stand together and fight in numbers.


I honestly believe it wonít get to the point of gun grabbing, I believe itís a scare tactic and a double edge sword.


I think it will come a little at a time, slowly enough that our children and theirs won't miss it until it's gone. The elite are trying to set up the future for their future generations, not ours. Population is burgeoning, a time will come that all of our resources will be strictly rationed and controlled.

We just won't stop making babies. We're worse than the whitetail deer.

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The United States has shown a willingness to murder its own citizens when those citizens donít conform. As mentioned above, Ruby Ridge and Waco are horrendous examples of what this government is capable of. However, to disarm the populace would take an operation on such a vast scale I do not see how it would be realistically feasible.

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Originally Posted by Choctaw
The United States has shown a willingness to murder its own citizens when those citizens donít conform. As mentioned above, Ruby Ridge and Waco are horrendous examples of what this government is capable of. However, to disarm the populace would take an operation on such a vast scale I do not see how it would be realistically feasible.


It would take a foreign Army, and that would be viewed as an invasion. Then we are right back to one of the points of the Second Amendment. "The SECURITY of a free state.

My analogy is this. Due to over 400 years of private gun ownership on this continent, it is too late. It would be like saying you are going to close the gates after a thousand head of cattle have already got out.


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