Need some help on what to get next for reloading a 6.5 Creedmoor plus some later. I’m just starting out but below is what I have so far:

1) Collet bullet puller.
2) Lyman & Hornady Reloading manual.
3) Lee decaping die with Replacemt decapper.
4) Forester case graphiter
5) imperial sizing wax.
6) Imperial dry case neck lube.
7) primer pocket brush cleaner
8) 2k BR2 bench rest primers
9) 16lbs of H4350.
10) 250 Nosler Brass
11) Several ammo boxes.
12) 1k 143g Hornady ELD-X bullets
13) primer tray
14) RCBS #3 shell holder for Holland’s perfect primer seater
15) Area 419 funnels
16) Area 419 loading tray
17) Sinclair expander die and mandrel.
18) Whidden Multipurpose OAL gauge
19) Whidden click adjustable full length bushing die.
20) Whidden bushing kit
21) Whidden shoulder bump gauge
22) Whidden bushing for OAL to ogive (pretty sure I messed this one up)
23) Forster press
24) Chargemaster lite.
25) Mitoyo calipers.
26) Hollands Perfect Primer Seater

I think I need a reloading bench, tumbler, anealer (salt bath), trimmer, chronograph and a run out gauge in that order but I truly have no idea what I’m talking about.

Good list one thing to add Chamfer & Deburring Tool

Or just get a case prep center, I like the Lyman or RCBS

What is the end goal of the ammo?

16 pounds of H4350? As for brass, I think Lapua and Norma are longed lived than Nosler, though the Nosler is still good brass.

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JK, you have great stuff there and should produce great results

you will need a scale to check your chargemaster.

that Area 419 stuff is first class!!!!!

What is your planned use of 17) Sinclair expander die and mandrel?

Kmon1, My thought process in the beginning was to buy brass that was already processed and then get a unit that that was three in one. In saying that, I haven’t decided a direction to go on this as my hands aren’t what they used to be.

603Country, I literally hate running out of something. (This powder better work, dangit!)

FiremanJG, The end goal of the ammo is to be as accurate as I can do. At the end of the day the rifle and ammo is to be more accurate than I am. (that’s not going to be difficult)

Buzzsaw, My train of thought was as long as the scale was consistent it wouldn’t matter what the end result was.

Big Fitz, The expander die and mandrel would be for deformed necks, whether during shipping or other reasons. I was afraid that forcing a bullet in and using it as a expander would be bad juju.

won't your sizing die do that?

he has a bushing die, and wants to expand on those non-conformant necks

if your scale is consistently throwing 3 gr over , you 'll have catastrophe waiting to happen

I'm a newb too with the same goals.

Sounds like you a little extra funds so my biggest recommendation is one of those case prep and/or a powered trimmer. My trimmer can be chucked onto a drill be my hand gets tired. I want to spend some money for a system that doesn't require my actual hand strength to hold from spinning while case prep operations.

With pistol loads, maybe.

Let me save you a ton of time.

Save your money until you can pony up for a Giraud trimmer. No other trimmer can hang with it.

4 minutes, 50 cases trimmed/ chamfered/ deburred.

First let me preface this by saying I have no clue what I’m talking about so take this as so.

As long as I have properly worked up my load it really shouldn’t matter.

If I calibrate the scale and double check it with check weights to make sure it’s consistent between loads it shouldn’t matter what the “true” weight of the charge is as long as it’s the exact same every time. For a exaggerated example, it doesn’t matter if the true weight of the charge is 39.2 gr. and the chargemaster indicates that it’s 38.2 gr. as long as the chargemaster consistently weighs 38.2 gr. every time you should be good to go.

When double checking the charge on another scale as long as it weighs the same every time on that scale I wouldn’t think that each scale would have to read the exact same weight, we’ll say 38.2 gr. on the chargemaster every time and the check scale indicates 38.0 gr. every time. Even though the differing weights between the two scales would drive me bat crazy it should be sufficient.

Buzzsaw was giving you advice on how to be safe and consistent

I am just giving you an example of not having another system to check and how assumptions can go very wrong

I have friends with blown up guns from careless reloading... it can happen

becareful and carry on

sorry, I missed that

Bushing dies still have the choice of an expander ball/mandrel. You can remove the bushing and use to expand and/or straighten necks. This is why I asked about the purpose of the separate expander mandrel.

I purposely did NOT ask the THF gurus on this to do my own research and, quite frankly, see if my superior engineering intellect could come up with a great solution. Conclusion to this fact finding mission: buy Giraud.
You're absolutely right. I have a WFT trimmer and is good enough. Wasn't smart enough to make something cheaper than what was available, at least not without calling in favors from machinist friends, AND anything shy of the Giraud seemed like it would not have been a great step from what I have.

My only regret was not buying it sooner. I process thousands of pieces of brass every year. Shame on me for giving away so many hours of my time trimming them by hand, for so many years.

BEST reloading tool I ever purchased it. And if Jason hasn't broken it, this is testament to how great they are made. in Texas BTW

I don’t believe my die came with a expander ball/mandrel, only a decapping pin that’s why I bought the separate die.

I agree withe you on the trimming. It took me years to wise up. I just wish the Giraud would work on the primer pockets to true and take out the swaging from surplus brass.