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Re: KETO? [Re: Buzzsaw] #7447622 03/01/19 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
Down 24lbs, 301-277

I dont think I'm eating enough, feel weak and get a little dizzy. I may not take my BP pill tomorrow, see if this helps.

What do I need, more protein? I ordered some expensive sardines and KETO beef Jerky yesterday.

Tomorrow at the rifle match, I have some KETO bars and they are supposed to cook a bunch of meat.
Sunday, going to a birthday party, catered by Slow Bone BBQ, I'll eat meat only.



First are you getting enough water, and enough salt? Those are usually the issue. Did you break keto, and get back in? If so some call it the keto flu for a few days. How much protein are you getting? Should get at least one gram per lb of body weight. I eat more because I work out a lot.

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I think not enough protein. I just had 3 fried eggs in Ghee. I think I like the real grass fed butter better than Ghee. I do need to drink more aqua, thanks

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Great work. Re the weakness, you don't happen to be checking your blood sugar levels are you? This diet is almost guaranteed to drop your blood sugar levels. I also echo everything Helo is saying. I crave the pink Himalayan salt. That stuff is great. Clean protein is also important. If you're a diabetic like me, it's a balancing act. Too much protein and it converts to sugar in the absence of carbs. Our bodies are complex and what works for one may be different in someone else. From this point on I recommend making adjustments one thing at a time to see what kind of results you get. This year has been a real eye opener for me.

Keep it up, great to hear the reports.


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cheers Well said

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Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
I think not enough protein. I just had 3 fried eggs in Ghee. I think I like the real grass fed butter better than Ghee. I do need to drink more aqua, thanks



How much protein are you getting? I don't know how active you are, but if you are not very active, then you won't need much protein.

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Originally Posted by helomech
How much protein are you getting? I don't know how active you are, but if you are not very active, then you won't need much protein.



Haha did a vegan tell you that?

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my keto stix show "moderate" ketosis. im not real active, so ive been eating mostly sauteed/roasted veggies. celery sticks, morning coffee with MCT and heavy cream, oh yea, i had some bacon bits to curb a craving. nighttime is the worst.

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How much protein are you getting? I don't know how active you are, but if you are not very active, then you won't need much protein.



Haha did a vegan tell you that?


Seriously? How much protein do you think a non active person should get? Even someone that works out should not get more than 2 per lb of body weight. I am extremely active, about 24 hours a week at the gym lifting weights, 9 hours a week martial arts, and I am on my feet working the rest of the time. I never go over 1.5 grams per pound of body weight. So I get about 262 grams of protein a day. If you have so much wisdom, please tell us.

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Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
my keto stix show "moderate" ketosis. im not real active, so ive been eating mostly sauteed/roasted veggies. celery sticks, morning coffee with MCT and heavy cream, oh yea, i had some bacon bits to curb a craving. nighttime is the worst.


Yes nighttime is the worse. I don't get hungry as long as I am doing something, but if I sit for more than about 20 minutes I start to get hungry. I make my own bacon bits, I buy 6 lbs of bacon at a time and slice it up and cook it all at once. When I want bacon I just take out 40-50 grams and throw it in my eggs, salad, or what ever. Tastes way better than the store bought bacon bits. I eat fat bombs for snacks, my favorite is the peanut butter chocolate chip cookie dough fat bombs.

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How much protein are you getting? I don't know how active you are, but if you are not very active, then you won't need much protein.



Haha did a vegan tell you that?


Seriously? How much protein do you think a non active person should get? Even someone that works out should not get more than 2 per lb of body weight. I am extremely active, about 24 hours a week at the gym lifting weights, 9 hours a week martial arts, and I am on my feet working the rest of the time. I never go over 1.5 grams per pound of body weight. So I get about 262 grams of protein a day. If you have so much wisdom, please tell us.


262 grams of protein is heaps more than most people eat. I interpreted 'not much' as something like 40 grams, which is what the major vegan sources tell starving women. If I misinterpreted your 'not much,' then my bad.

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How much protein are you getting? I don't know how active you are, but if you are not very active, then you won't need much protein.



Haha did a vegan tell you that?


Seriously? How much protein do you think a non active person should get? Even someone that works out should not get more than 2 per lb of body weight. I am extremely active, about 24 hours a week at the gym lifting weights, 9 hours a week martial arts, and I am on my feet working the rest of the time. I never go over 1.5 grams per pound of body weight. So I get about 262 grams of protein a day. If you have so much wisdom, please tell us.


262 grams of protein is heaps more than most people eat. I interpreted 'not much' as something like 40 grams, which is what the major vegan sources tell starving women. If I misinterpreted your 'not much,' then my bad.



I don't recommend that much to most people. About 1 gram per pound for the average person, for someone that doesn't move around much, I would say about .7 per lb of body weight. Everyone is different, but that is a general rule. It is easy to eat a lot of protein on a keto diet. I eat 7 eggs, a pat of butter and 5 slices of bacon every morning, fat bombs for snacks and 12 -14 oz of meat for supper. Always wild game, or the chickens I raise. Lots of nuts for snacks also.

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Yeah I don't run keto but during bulking cycles I'll end up with 250-300 of protein as well

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24 pounds is great buzz.

Have you taken you BP when you feel weak? With the weight loss you may not need the same dosage. Check it and maybe call the Dr for adjustments.

Keep on keeping on.

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thanks guys!

helomech, there a bunch of folks saying great things about you yesterday at the shooting match!

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Low carb French toast. I ate just over half of this, and it was 22 total carbs. 16 net.

Made the bread, and cooked it in microwave.
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And for our desert after supper we had low carb cinnamon rolls. They came out really good.

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I only lost 1 pound this week. I think its cuz I overdosed on protein, Sunday -last night, BBQ brisket, sausage, leftovers, last night 3 beed ribs, oven roasted, SO GOOD

This weekend grill salmon and tuna , tons more vegetables, this week, avocados, olives, sauteed spinach, yada yada

Need to get more exercise but my damm spinal stenosis has flared up and hurts like he77.

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Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
I only lost 1 pound this week. I think its cuz I overdosed on protein, Sunday -last night, BBQ brisket, sausage, leftovers, last night 3 beed ribs, oven roasted, SO GOOD

This weekend grill salmon and tuna , tons more vegetables, this week, avocados, olives, sauteed spinach, yada yada

Need to get more exercise but my damm spinal stenosis has flared up and hurts like he77.

report back nest week realmad


Don't go just by your weight. Take measurements, a lot of times you will loose inches, but not weight. Just keep the course and it will work.

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Yep. Stay focused Buzz. Don’t worry about the pound. A pound is still good.

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Ya'll use the bone broth and collagen powder to make shakes?

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Buzz, as you go forward your body adapts. On some weeks a pound lost is phenomenal. Shoot. I bounce up and 5 lb for 3 months, and then break through a couple more. This is a long term lifestyle change. I have to be reminded of that when I dont get the result I'm hoping for. Keep it up.


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Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
Great news!! What are your "go to" foods? I'm not a cook, so i'm not a big recipe guy. I love to grill !!!!!

Normal days eating?

Cheat on Saturdays with a few Vodka, soda's?

bacon and eggs..bulletproof coffee..ribey steaks...cauliflower mashed potatoes with lots of butter..

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i just bought a new food processer and am making my own nutbutter..just made a batch of macademia butter,pecan butter..yesterday i made some almond butter..of all these pecan butter was the hardest..took several minutes to get it to the right consistantcy..with mct oil and coconut oil..but man its good!!

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You're gonna hate it, but I took a break four or five months ago. Vodka can work as a no carb no sugar adult beverage, but it does take you out of keto.

On true keto, the bright side is you get to eat bacon, avacados, real butter, and stuffed jalapeno peppers. You also get to eat lots of bbq, just keep the sugar free rubs and kick the sweet sauces. I miss tortilla chips and salsa the most.

I do eat a lot of peppers.

Full disclosure, we still eat out Mexican at least once a month and I'll eat a basket of chips with their hottest salsa. Life has to be worth livin....


Put butter on everything. I love butter.

Why do you say vodka will knock you out of keto. I have never read or heard that before. As long as it is not a flavored vodka, you should be fine. At least I though.

If anyone is interested you can join my wife's facebook group. If we tried the recipe, we will have said if we liked it or not. Just let me know you are from THF and I will approve you.

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everybodys macros are different..i might stay on keto with 50 grams of carbs..the next guy cant get over 20..everybody is different..it takes a while to find your macros..or numbers

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I watched a bunch of YouTube vids on KETO last night.

More to it than I thought. You cant eat TOO much protein, so not that much meat, FAT yes, but not that much protein.

Lots of expensive items, CMT oil, Ghee, etc.

Colonoscopy next Thursday, I may give it a shot then.

I started my Phentermine and salad diet Monday, I was 301lbs, this morning, I was 291lbs. I'm sure most of it was water.




It works. Don't worry about eating too much protein. It's almost impossible as you will be satiated before that happens. You really only need the MCT oil when you first start just to get your body trained to using fats for fuel rather than carbs.

I would regularly eat three steaks, bacon, beef jerky, etc.. and still be in ketosis. The whole eating too much protein is pretty much BS. But you do want to flood your body with healthy fats (MCT Oil, Olive Oil, Avocado Oil, Coconut Oil, meat fats, some nuts, etc...) to get it to learn how to use them.

like i said in another post everybody is different..my macros.are different than somebody else..i ate too much protein and not enough fat and it threw me off keto..my macros are 70% fat..25% protein and 5% carbs..it took me quit a while to find it out

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