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Wonder who took that shot #7418476 01/29/19 11:55 PM
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This buck has been hanging around the neighborhood several months. I have video from November without the object in his left shoulder.
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Low poundage bow. Buck looks healthy



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Probably a kid.....


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That is one reason I don't bow hunt. I have one broadhead sitting in my shop that came from the ribcage area of a doe. Your chance of a clean kill is substantially less with a bow, than with a reasonable caliber rifle.

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Originally Posted by Old Stony
That is one reason I don't bow hunt. I have one broadhead sitting in my shop that came from the ribcage area of a doe. Your chance of a clean kill is substantially less with a bow, than with a reasonable caliber rifle.


That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

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Originally Posted by skinnerback
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That is one reason I don't bow hunt. I have one broadhead sitting in my shop that came from the ribcage area of a doe. Your chance of a clean kill is substantially less with a bow, than with a reasonable caliber rifle.


That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.


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Originally Posted by Old Stony
That is one reason I don't bow hunt. I have one broadhead sitting in my shop that came from the ribcage area of a doe. Your chance of a clean kill is substantially less with a bow, than with a reasonable caliber rifle.

A poor shot with a rifle will result in a wounded animal just as will with a bow.


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Originally Posted by Old Stony
That is one reason I don't bow hunt. I have one broadhead sitting in my shop that came from the ribcage area of a doe. Your chance of a clean kill is substantially less with a bow, than with a reasonable caliber rifle.


I'd have to disagree with you there...my friend.

I've been bow-hunting for 40 years now and can tell you that a properly placed broadhead (good, sharp broadhead) will result in a cleanly killed deer every time. Often times with MUCH less trauma than they experience having been rifle shot. Also, less than lethal hits tend to result in the animal making a complete recovery.

Now...I would not argue that there are a fair number of bowhunters who do not practice regularly or who take shots outside of reasonable limits. But that is a matter of irresponsibility and not one of equipment effectiveness.

I have even killed dozens of deer with Flint/Chert/Obsidian/Jasper tipped arrows, something certain folks object to. I've always hunted with traditional gear (Longbows and Recurves). I know my limitations and stick to them. I can tell you from experience that an arrow & broadhead (of proper weight) put in the right spot, will quickly and cleanly kill a deer. I've had quite a few deer over the years (after having the arrow pass through them), just trot off a few yards, look around for 10-15 seconds and then just tip over. They never really knew what was going on.

I don't want to start a big debate over which weapon is more effective (overall) or the merits of each. I'm sure that has been done Ad Nauseam. But rest assured...a GOOD bowhunter hunting within his/her effective range is every bit as lethal as their gun toting counterpart.


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Originally Posted by Old Stony
That is one reason I don't bow hunt. I have one broadhead sitting in my shop that came from the ribcage area of a doe. Your chance of a clean kill is substantially less with a bow, than with a reasonable caliber rifle.


Thatís an arrow placed above the vitals. You know what happens when you accidentally shot a deer via a 30-06 right above the spine.... it gets up and runs off...

True story.


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That is one reason I don't bow hunt. I have one broadhead sitting in my shop that came from the ribcage area of a doe. Your chance of a clean kill is substantially less with a bow, than with a reasonable caliber rifle.


I'd have to disagree with you there...my friend.

I've been bow-hunting for 40 years now and can tell you that a properly placed broadhead (good, sharp broadhead) will result in a cleanly killed deer every time. Often times with MUCH less trauma than they experience having been rifle shot. Also, less than lethal hits tend to result in the animal making a complete recovery.

Now...I would not argue that there are a fair number of bowhunters who do not practice regularly or who take shots outside of reasonable limits. But that is a matter of irresponsibility and not one of equipment effectiveness.

I have even killed dozens of deer with Flint/Chert/Obsidian/Jasper tipped arrows, something certain folks object to. I've always hunted with traditional gear (Longbows and Recurves). I know my limitations and stick to them. I can tell you from experience that an arrow & broadhead (of proper weight) put in the right spot, will quickly and cleanly kill a deer. I've had quite a few deer over the years (after having the arrow pass through them), just trot off a few yards, look around for 10-15 seconds and then just tip over. They never really knew what was going on.

I don't want to start a big debate over which weapon is more effective (overall) or the merits of each. I'm sure that has been done Ad Nauseam. But rest assured...a GOOD bowhunter hunting within his/her effective range is every bit as lethal as their gun toting counterpart.



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Low poundage bow. Buck looks healthy


Agree up

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Originally Posted by Old Stony
That is one reason I don't bow hunt. I have one broadhead sitting in my shop that came from the ribcage area of a doe. Your chance of a clean kill is substantially less with a bow, than with a reasonable caliber rifle.


Compare my doe with a bow and my son's first deer with a .243 and the tracking job was 40 yards less with the bow.

Both were double lungs shots and both deer were fully broadside. The blood trail was far heavier with the bow kill as well.



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Bad shots happen and we may never know what happened on that particular hunt. As stated above well placed shots with either a bow or a gun will result in a good, quick clean kill.

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Not taking sides, but I wanted to learn to bow hunt but after watching all the shows on TV where the "expert bow hunter" says for the 100th time, "we need to back out of here and find the buck/doe in the morning. What a complete waste of an animal. I'm sticking with my rifle and I have never had to "back out" and try to find it another day.


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Looks like the tip of the broadhead sticking out, to me, which would leave the arrow inside and explain why it hasnít fallen out.


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Looks like a Swhacker 100 grain stuck in the shoulder blade. Entrance hole looks to be 4"-5" to the left at the top of the shoulder.



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Originally Posted by Sneaky
Looks like the tip of the broadhead sticking out, to me, which would leave the arrow inside and explain why it hasnít fallen out.

It's hard to tell from the picture but I think it's the back-end of the broadhead sticking out. That is, the broadhead barely penetrated & stuck on a bone. Arrow broke off at the head. If the arrow was inside I doubt both legs could function. confused2


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Looks like the tip of the broadhead sticking out, to me, which would leave the arrow inside and explain why it hasnít fallen out.

It's hard to tell from the picture but I think it's the back-end of the broadhead sticking out. That is, the broadhead barely penetrated & stuck on a bone. Arrow broke off at the head. If the arrow was inside I doubt both legs could function. confused2


Could be. That just looks like the tip, to me.


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Originally Posted by Sneaky
Looks like the tip of the broadhead sticking out, to me, which would leave the arrow inside and explain why it hasn’t fallen out.


Looks like it to me too. I believe it's a green Muzzy 100. That Trocar tip is easy to spot.

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Looks like the tip of the broadhead sticking out, to me, which would leave the arrow inside and explain why it hasn’t fallen out.


Looks like it to me too. I believe it's a green Muzzy 100. That Trocar tip is easy to spot.


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Originally Posted by Sneaky
Looks like the tip of the broadhead sticking out, to me, which would leave the arrow inside and explain why it hasnít fallen out.


I have my doubts about that. If we consider the angle involved... that shot would likely have hit the spine (same as a high shoulder shot with a rifle). But who knows.

From the picture it is hard to tell what we are looking at, except it is clearly a broadhead. My 'guess' (and its purely a guess) it that we are looking at the ferrule end of a mechanical broadhead which failed to penetrate (stuck in scapula) and failed to open.

The arrow shaft released the ferrule upon impact/shock (this can happen to nocks as well). I believe the deer was struck from the same side we see the broadhead protruding from.

Maybe a broadhead something like this:




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