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.243 Reduced Recoil
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01/27/19 03:27 AM
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Has anyone tried the reduced recoil loads for a .243? My daughter has been shooting .22 really well and asking me to let her shoot a deer. She is 6 and a good friend of mine gave her a nice .243 want to start her out right and make sure she doesn't develop a flinch and figure the reduced recoil ammo available will be the best bet for now. We have been practicing trigger pull dry firing at targets with the .243 just haven't went live yet.
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Re: .243 Reduced Recoil
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01/27/19 03:49 AM
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I made some light .243 loads for my kids when they where target practicing, but put normal loads in when they where hunting. They never noticed the difference. Probably still don't know I did that.
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Re: .243 Reduced Recoil
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01/27/19 05:17 AM
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We’ve used the reduced factory loads to kill a few deer. They worked just fine.
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Re: .243 Reduced Recoil
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01/27/19 12:41 PM
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I have developed several light loads for kids and grandkids. They work great and definitely do help in reducing flinch in younger folks and adults who a bit on the small side. And, as mentioned above, if hotter loads are wanted to take hogs and deer, all you have to do is make sure the reduced loads and the "normal" loads print on the target at the same spot!
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Re: .243 Reduced Recoil
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01/27/19 02:00 PM
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I have developed several light loads for kids and grandkids. They work great and definitely do help in reducing flinch in younger folks and adults who a bit on the small side. And, as mentioned above, if hotter loads are wanted to take hogs and deer, all you have to do is make sure the reduced loads and the "normal" loads print on the target at the same spot! I always just adjusted the sights for each load. Only takes a couple rounds.
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Re: .243 Reduced Recoil
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01/27/19 07:29 PM
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If you reload H4895 is your friend for reduced loads, Hodgdon has instrutions on their site for reduing loads with it. If you do not reload Chad can fix you up. I see NewJeep and Chad ae talking on another thread
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Re: .243 Reduced Recoil
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01/28/19 12:10 AM
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Re: .243 Reduced Recoil
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01/28/19 03:13 AM
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Re: .243 Reduced Recoil
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01/28/19 01:54 PM
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She is 6 and I as a responsible parent want to insure the most comfortable shooting I can so she can enjoy it for years to come. I have seen other Dads ruin their kids by throwing them to the recoil wolves. I was very proud of her yesterday. She shot a 3 shot 2" group at 50 yards off the bipod with her .243. First time shooting a centerfire. She was a little surprised by the recoil but all smiles. She sent a few rounds out of the 22-250 as well.
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Re: .243 Reduced Recoil
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01/28/19 02:04 PM
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She is 6 and I as a responsible parent want to insure the most comfortable shooting I can so she can enjoy it for years to come. I have seen other Dads ruin their kids by throwing them to the recoil wolves. I was very proud of her yesterday. She shot a 3 shot 2" group at 50 yards off the bipod with her .243. First time shooting a centerfire. She was a little surprised by the recoil but all smiles. She sent a few rounds out of the 22-250 as well. Good work. Were they reduced 243 loads? What did you go with?
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Re: .243 Reduced Recoil
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01/28/19 02:16 PM
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The 7mm08 ones from Hornady are good and very accurate, not sure about the .243's, worth a try though. Any of these beside the .223 will have recoil and NOISE and jump.
Not my business but IMO, you are trying to hurry her cuz she now has a gun.
You got a .223? Give it to her and shoot it allot !!!
Muzzle brake will tame the .243 but will be EXTRA loud.
My daughter always wears muffs while huntin
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Re: .243 Reduced Recoil
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01/28/19 02:17 PM
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[/quote] Good work. Were they reduced 243 loads? What did you go with? [/quote]
Yes they were reduced recoil. I ran up and got some Hornady Custom lite from Academy since she was really wanting to shoot. I am going to end up getting Chad to build some for her.
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Re: .243 Reduced Recoil
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01/28/19 02:20 PM
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The 7mm08 ones from Hornady are good and very accurate, not sure about the .243's, worth a try though. Any of these beside the .223 will have recoil and NOISE and jump.
Not my business but IMO, you are trying to hurry her cuz she now has a gun.
You got a .223? Give it to her and shoot it allot !!!
Muzzle brake will tame the .243 but will be EXTRA loud.
My daughter always wears muffs while huntin Yes I have some .223 but she doesn't like to shoot them because of the extra noise from the brakes/flash hiders. She didn't mind the .243 noise but I am waiting on stamps to come in for a couple suppressors. I have been using ear plugs and ear muffs combined. Thinking about going and picking up a bolt gun in .223 as well for her. (just to practice)
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Re: .243 Reduced Recoil
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01/28/19 02:28 PM
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I shot a box of the 243 Hornady 58 grain Vmax one time just for kicks and they were about like my 22-250. A light bullet like that for plinking should be good for her. My daughter shot her first deer this year with my AR in 223. Once your suppressor comes in that will be perfect for her. 65 grain Gamekings and the buck and a big boar she shot fell over. I was very impressed.
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Re: .243 Reduced Recoil
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01/28/19 03:06 PM
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Good work. Were they reduced 243 loads? What did you go with?
Yes they were reduced recoil. I ran up and got some Hornady Custom lite from Academy since she was really wanting to shoot. I am going to end up getting Chad to build some for her. Thanks for sharing, I am always wondering what I will do for my son. He is 4 and pretty scared of guns at this point. Very opposed to loud noises. He will watch with ear muffs on, but I cant even get him to shoot a 22 yet.
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Re: .243 Reduced Recoil
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Not trying to be rude at all, but perhaps holding off until she can handle the .243 with standard ammo would be a good choice. .243 is the lightest round I would consider for a full-time deer rifle (I know, I know.. there are lots of deer killed with 223’s every year, and I’ve done that too, but never been impressed with the results). The small rifles are truly expert’s guns, and there’s not much room for error on a deer with one. YMMV
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Re: .243 Reduced Recoil
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01/28/19 04:14 PM
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Not trying to be rude at all, but perhaps holding off until she can handle the .243 with standard ammo would be a good choice. .243 is the lightest round I would consider for a full-time deer rifle (I know, I know.. there are lots of deer killed with 223’s every year, and I’ve done that too, but never been impressed with the results). The small rifles are truly expert’s guns, and there’s not much room for error on a deer with one. YMMV
Put a 60 grain partition in any place you would put a 100 grain 243 or 130 grain 270 and collect a dead deer. Within its distance limitations I feel no handicap with it, the right bullet is a game change for a 223. My SIL is a grown woman with kids old enough to shoot and hunt and still shoots a 223 because she shoots it better than a 270 etc.
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Re: .243 Reduced Recoil
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01/28/19 04:56 PM
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Not trying to be rude at all, but perhaps holding off until she can handle the .243 with standard ammo would be a good choice. .243 is the lightest round I would consider for a full-time deer rifle (I know, I know.. there are lots of deer killed with 223’s every year, and I’ve done that too, but never been impressed with the results). The small rifles are truly expert’s guns, and there’s not much room for error on a deer with one. YMMV
Put a 60 grain partition in any place you would put a 100 grain 243 or 130 grain 270 and collect a dead deer. Within its distance limitations I feel no handicap with it, the right bullet is a game change for a 223. My SIL is a grown woman with kids old enough to shoot and hunt and still shoots a 223 because she shoots it better than a 270 etc. That’s exactly what I used. 80 yard shot in the shoulder. Results included: 50 yard recovery and zero blood trail. I walked to the last place I saw the deer, and she was about 20 yards farther, luckily in the open. I have not been impressed shooting deer with little guns. I have also killed deer with a .204, and was even less impressed.
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Re: .243 Reduced Recoil
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01/28/19 04:58 PM
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Not trying to be rude at all, but perhaps holding off until she can handle the .243 with standard ammo would be a good choice. .243 is the lightest round I would consider for a full-time deer rifle (I know, I know.. there are lots of deer killed with 223’s every year, and I’ve done that too, but never been impressed with the results). The small rifles are truly expert’s guns, and there’s not much room for error on a deer with one. YMMV
Put a 60 grain partition in any place you would put a 100 grain 243 or 130 grain 270 and collect a dead deer. Within its distance limitations I feel no handicap with it, the right bullet is a game change for a 223. My SIL is a grown woman with kids old enough to shoot and hunt and still shoots a 223 because she shoots it better than a 270 etc. That’s exactly what I used. 80 yard shot in the shoulder. Results included: 50 yard recovery and zero blood trail. I walked to the last place I saw the deer, and she was about 20 yards farther, luckily in the open. I have not been impressed shooting deer with little guns. I have also killed deer with a .204, and was even less impressed. I have shot plenty of deer with a 243 and a 270 that didn't get an exit and left no blood trail.
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Re: .243 Reduced Recoil
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That’s why I use a 30-06 Anyway, it is my personal opinion that little guns for little people shooting at deer is a bad idea. That being said I shot my first deer at 8 years old with an iron sighted 30-30.. so I might be a little biased. Also I had (and still do) shot a lot.
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Re: .243 Reduced Recoil
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01/28/19 06:34 PM
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Not trying to be rude at all, but perhaps holding off until she can handle the .243 with standard ammo would be a good choice. .243 is the lightest round I would consider for a full-time deer rifle (I know, I know.. there are lots of deer killed with 223’s every year, and I’ve done that too, but never been impressed with the results). The small rifles are truly expert’s guns, and there’s not much room for error on a deer with one. YMMV
Put a 60 grain partition in any place you would put a 100 grain 243 or 130 grain 270 and collect a dead deer. Within its distance limitations I feel no handicap with it, the right bullet is a game change for a 223. My SIL is a grown woman with kids old enough to shoot and hunt and still shoots a 223 because she shoots it better than a 270 etc. That’s exactly what I used. 80 yard shot in the shoulder. Results included: 50 yard recovery and zero blood trail. I walked to the last place I saw the deer, and she was about 20 yards farther, luckily in the open. I have not been impressed shooting deer with little guns. I have also killed deer with a .204, and was even less impressed. I have shot plenty of deer with a 243 and a 270 that didn't get an exit and left no blood trail. Same can be said with a 3-06 or 308. Bullet choice has more to do with that, than the caliber. Only deer I ever seen literally blown off it's feet was a 200 yard shot with a .243 100 grain power points at Hwyman's place. 308 with SST's rarely ever leave blood, and silvertips in a 3006 have never left a blood trail for me. Power points in any of them will leave a massive blood trail.
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Re: .243 Reduced Recoil
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Never had a core lock, interlock, or gameking stay in a deer and all have left a good blood trail—if it was needed.
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Re: .243 Reduced Recoil
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Never had a core lock, interlock, or gameking stay in a deer and all have left a good blood trail—if it was needed. Ive had 150 grain interlocks out of a 270 not go through deer necks and shoulders and the same on hogs. I shot a bunch of little hogs this year and even a javalina with a 100 grain sierra out of a 243 this season that didn't go through. Never lost any of them but many were fun(not) to find. It may not be the rule, but in my experience its more than an exception.
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Re: .243 Reduced Recoil
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Not trying to be rude at all, but perhaps holding off until she can handle the .243 with standard ammo would be a good choice. .243 is the lightest round I would consider for a full-time deer rifle (I know, I know.. there are lots of deer killed with 223’s every year, and I’ve done that too, but never been impressed with the results). The small rifles are truly expert’s guns, and there’s not much room for error on a deer with one. YMMV
She was very comfortable shooting the .243 with 85 grain reduced loads. I see 100 deer shot a year and have trailed a lot by bad shots with big guns. All in knowing the limitations of the shooter. My kid will be restricted to 50 yards or less until she can prove otherwise. She also will not pull the trigger on any animal until I know she is ready.
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Re: .243 Reduced Recoil
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A 85 grain .243 at 2800fps will kill a deer just as quick as any other round.
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