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Re: New Elk Gun
[Re: erathar]
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01/06/19 06:37 PM
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Barrett Fieldcraft if your not recoil sensitive
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Re: New Elk Gun
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01/06/19 07:58 PM
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I'm disappointed Scott W has not returned fire on me yet.
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Re: New Elk Gun
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01/06/19 08:01 PM
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7 Rem Mag 300 Win Mag 28 Nosler 30 Nosler
Not on a Tikka action. Their free bore, on their barrels is so long, bullets have to jump a long way to rifling. The feed ramp also causes bullets that need to sit deep in the case. A Rem 700 action, or a Bighorn action for more money. Bartlein barrel, pick your stock and bottom metal. Does JG no longer like Tikka? Is the world flat? Global warming is true? KRoyal is a Democrat? Buzz will show up to the next hunters challenge? IDontKnowWhatYouDidLastSummer doesn’t really make doves mourn??? My world has just been turned upside down... maybe it’s time to go to the dark side and be a fireman That was pretty darn funny Wade! My Tikka 7mm Rem Mag shoots great with factory ammo. I have not worked up reloads for it since I don't hunt much anymore. Not sure I care about free bore if it shoots tight groups as is.
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Re: New Elk Gun
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01/06/19 08:30 PM
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Wytex, I went from a Remington 700 in 7mmSTW to a Tikka T3 hunter in 270 WSM for my mountain hunting rifle lost almost 2 lbs of weight. The only bullet the WSM has had fired through it is the 140gr Accubond. Never have gotten to try it on elk but have no doubt it will work. The 270 Win has been killing elk longer than most ofus have been alive no reason a faster 270 should be any different.
Of all the WSM's the 270 caught my eye, Mrs. B now hunts with a 270 WSM, I'll stick with my 300 Weatherby.
Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
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Re: New Elk Gun
[Re: erathar]
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01/06/19 08:30 PM
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Two choices I would make right now for an elk gun:
Christensen arms ridgeline in .300 win mag
Weatherby Mark V ultralightweight in .300 win mag or .270 wby mag.
I like the action on the mark V better than the Christensen but the carbon fiber barrel is nice and they will put 5 shots into a dime.
Both are under 7 lbs and are great western rifles
Both will run you around the $2k mark
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: New Elk Gun
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01/07/19 02:06 AM
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I'm disappointed Scott W has not returned fire on me yet. I've been at the travel trailer/boat show all day chasing my little girl (and son) around all their dream boats and campers. Don't worry, my Tikka 300wm is nice and warm in the safe next to the CTR.
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Re: New Elk Gun
[Re: erathar]
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01/07/19 09:01 PM
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If you can get a resident elk tag - 308/30.06 or Similar
If your paying for a NON-resident (out of state tag) - 300 Win Mag or Similar.
Out of State tags are expensive and I want big energy hitting the elk (Youve spent around a grand plus for license/tag/travel/lodging etc..)
In state tags... yea s 30.06 will certainly kill one.
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Re: New Elk Gun
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01/08/19 03:24 PM
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txtrophy85
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If you can get a resident elk tag - 308/30.06 or Similar
If your paying for a NON-resident (out of state tag) - 300 Win Mag or Similar.
Out of State tags are expensive and I want big energy hitting the elk (Youve spent around a grand plus for license/tag/travel/lodging etc..)
In state tags... yea s 30.06 will certainly kill one.
so elk getting shot by non residents are inherently tougher? carry enough gun, bar none. all the rounds listed above are fine for elk but to say your fine with a smaller gun because you can get a lesser cost state tag (never keeping in mind limited draws, short seasons, etc ) is rediculous
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: New Elk Gun
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01/08/19 04:16 PM
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Wytex, I went from a Remington 700 in 7mmSTW to a Tikka T3 hunter in 270 WSM for my mountain hunting rifle lost almost 2 lbs of weight. The only bullet the WSM has had fired through it is the 140gr Accubond. Never have gotten to try it on elk but have no doubt it will work. The 270 Win has been killing elk longer than most ofus have been alive no reason a faster 270 should be any different.
I agree ! The short mags are great mountain rifles with more than enough power to take the biggest bulls.The bull moose required no tracking. Bonded bullets are awesome in their ability to take large game. My cow bison went only 10 yds after the shot with my 300wsm . The other hunters around the herd were firing repeatedly at mortally hit animals. The bison is the largest animal by body weight I have taken and I was very impressed with the 300wsm performance. I find the 300wm and .338 overkill but that's my choice. Haven't had to track my elk, moose or bison taken with a 300wsm. Deer and pronghorn never know what hit them. Hogs don't like that pill either. Lots of choices for an elk rifle, pic one that's not going to punish you when you shoot it and enjoy your elk hunt. My elk rifle is my pronghorn rifle, deer rifle, moose rifle and bison rifle. You can never have too many rifles though. One thought are you going to carry it or the guide? Spouse has run into this , had to carry a friends rifle because it was too heavy for him to tote around in the mountains at our elevation. Great accurate, long range rifle, but too dang heavy for mountain carry. Almost cost him his deer. This year he had a more appropriate rifle and was able to carry his own, result a 195" mule deer. A couple of pounds can make a big difference.
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Re: New Elk Gun
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01/08/19 04:50 PM
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If you can get a resident elk tag - 308/30.06 or Similar
If your paying for a NON-resident (out of state tag) - 300 Win Mag or Similar.
Out of State tags are expensive and I want big energy hitting the elk (Youve spent around a grand plus for license/tag/travel/lodging etc..)
In state tags... yea s 30.06 will certainly kill one.
so elk getting shot by non residents are inherently tougher? carry enough gun, bar none. all the rounds listed above are fine for elk but to say your fine with a smaller gun because you can get a lesser cost state tag (never keeping in mind limited draws, short seasons, etc ) is rediculous This kinda blew my mind too. It’s like the local using a 22 Hornet for his deer because he’s local. He can wound them and it’s ok. WTF. He can keep trying?
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Re: New Elk Gun
[Re: erathar]
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01/08/19 06:14 PM
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Part of the reasoning many us right or wrong but if you are a local you are not as time restricted and feel the pressure of taking a longer shot than say an out of state hunter that just has a few days. In some western states locals have a month or more to get it done. I know locals in Montana that have been getting their elk for years with 7mm-08, 308s and such but they hunt and do not take long range shots most of their elk have been within 200 yards which is well within the wheel house of those for elk.
Not saying right or wrong but it works for them and many more. If you have a month or so to hunt you can be more selective of shots to take than someone with very limited time. Also being local many learn their places and where the animals will be a good part of the time.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: New Elk Gun
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01/09/19 01:13 PM
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Part of the reasoning many us right or wrong but if you are a local you are not as time restricted and feel the pressure of taking a longer shot than say an out of state hunter that just has a few days. In some western states locals have a month or more to get it done. I know locals in Montana that have been getting their elk for years with 7mm-08, 308s and such but they hunt and do not take long range shots most of their elk have been within 200 yards which is well within the wheel house of those for elk.
Not saying right or wrong but it works for them and many more. If you have a month or so to hunt you can be more selective of shots to take than someone with very limited time. Also being local many learn their places and where the animals will be a good part of the time. You bring up a very good point, Elmer Keith once said the same thing when he was arguing for the 338 caliber. Having only a few days to hunt might make a person take a shot they normally wouldn't, so take enough gun just in case. His point was possibly taking a shot with the critter going straight away or quartering and having enough rifle to make it to the vitals.
Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
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Re: New Elk Gun
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01/10/19 06:15 PM
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If you can get a resident elk tag - 308/30.06 or Similar
If your paying for a NON-resident (out of state tag) - 300 Win Mag or Similar.
Out of State tags are expensive and I want big energy hitting the elk (Youve spent around a grand plus for license/tag/travel/lodging etc..)
In state tags... yea s 30.06 will certainly kill one.
so elk getting shot by non residents are inherently tougher? carry enough gun, bar none. all the rounds listed above are fine for elk but to say your fine with a smaller gun because you can get a lesser cost state tag (never keeping in mind limited draws, short seasons, etc ) is rediculous Nope. Time restraint, out of state tag, etc. Id rather be overgunned that hits hard when im out of state. The shot is more forgiving, etc .....
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Re: New Elk Gun
[Re: erathar]
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01/10/19 06:53 PM
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Season dates are the same for residents and nonresidents. Even if they weren’t, I fail to see the logic in that, either. The right cartridge is the right cartridge.
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Re: New Elk Gun
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01/10/19 09:12 PM
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Re: New Elk Gun
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01/10/19 09:26 PM
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The only people who believed that elk can’t be killed by .30-06’s and 270’s were gun writers and there followers.
That farce isn’t believed anymore
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: New Elk Gun
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01/10/19 10:26 PM
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.22 creedmoor, just the name will scare them to death
but really
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Re: New Elk Gun
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01/11/19 01:45 AM
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The only people who believed that elk can’t be killed by .30-06’s and 270’s were gun writers and there followers.
That farce isn’t believed anymore
You can kill an Elk with a .243. However if your hunting out of state and your limited to less than 5 days, I recommend people go over gunned. Your time limited and you may take a shot at longer ranges and or quartering shots. More powerful guns have a better chance of getting to the vitals
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Re: New Elk Gun
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01/11/19 03:00 AM
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The only people who believed that elk can’t be killed by .30-06’s and 270’s were gun writers and there followers.
That farce isn’t believed anymore
You can kill an Elk with a .243. However if your hunting out of state and your limited to less than 5 days, I recommend people go over gunned. Your time limited and you may take a shot at longer ranges and or quartering shots. More powerful guns have a better chance of getting to the vitals I hunt elk every year out of state. I know to bring enough gun
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: New Elk Gun
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01/11/19 08:41 AM
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The only people who believed that elk can’t be killed by .30-06’s and 270’s were gun writers and there followers.
That farce isn’t believed anymore
You can kill an Elk with a .243. However if your hunting out of state and your limited to less than 5 days, I recommend people go over gunned. Your time limited and you may take a shot at longer ranges and or quartering shots. More powerful guns have a better chance of getting to the vitals I hunt elk every year out of state. I know to bring enough gun I hope it’s more gun than you would use on Texas elk.
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Re: New Elk Gun
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01/11/19 01:35 PM
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.284 Winchester will get you style points
"Life is hard; it's harder if you're stupid."
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Re: New Elk Gun
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01/11/19 02:34 PM
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.284 Winchester will get you style points For style points let’s talk 8mm rem mag..... it’s not economical, it’s probably over kill ( so I geuss it would be ok for us out of staters... ; ) ), and not many folks tote one. Maybe carry a 30-06 back up to camp. Just in case you find your self needing off the shelf ammo.
learn something new everyday and you will have never wasted a day.
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Re: New Elk Gun
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01/11/19 02:44 PM
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.284 Winchester will get you style points .264 win mag.
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: New Elk Gun
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01/11/19 10:56 PM
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Wytex, I went from a Remington 700 in 7mmSTW to a Tikka T3 hunter in 270 WSM for my mountain hunting rifle lost almost 2 lbs of weight. The only bullet the WSM has had fired through it is the 140gr Accubond. Never have gotten to try it on elk but have no doubt it will work. The 270 Win has been killing elk longer than most ofus have been alive no reason a faster 270 should be any different.
right on, here come the haters
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Re: New Elk Gun
[Re: erathar]
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01/12/19 12:39 AM
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30-06 with 180 gr bullet has never let me down in Arizona, Colorado or New Mexico
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Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley, Rancher Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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