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This prob won’t work, but, how can I take the warm air from my attic and pump it into my house? Lol. My damn attic is 75 degrees, turned been running the fireplace to the point the ash is falling out the front, and the heater has been off since yesterday.

Seems like wasting hot air just letting it sit in the attic. I’m bored, this weather sucks.

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The troubles of owning an energy efficient home... Get a bigger fireplace. It should not do that.


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Originally Posted by 2Beez
The troubles of owning an energy efficient home... Get a bigger fireplace. It should not do that.


I need one like at Cracker Barrel

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Yes, you do but you will deal with what you got lol


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Cut some ventaliton holes in the ceiling. It will help in the summer too!

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Go buy that vet

Your boredom will soon disapear for a while

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Originally Posted by ksjmf
Cut some ventaliton holes in the ceiling. It will help in the summer too!


Heat rises, won’t work.

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Originally Posted by beaversnipe
Go buy that vet

Your boredom will soon disapear for a while


Ha, yeah I’m not Buzz

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Don't go bigger on the fireplace, go smaller. If you want to improve your fireplace look up Rumford fireplaces. Modern fireplaces are actually much less efficient than this 200 year old design.

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Originally Posted by BigPig
This prob won’t work, but, how can I take the warm air from my attic and pump it into my house? Lol. My damn attic is 75 degrees, turned been running the fireplace to the point the ash is falling out the front, and the heater has been off since yesterday.

Seems like wasting hot air just letting it sit in the attic. I’m bored, this weather sucks.


I have the same issue, I keep my downstairs set at 74/75 when it cold, I keep my upstairs set at 72 when it's cold. I can go upstairs and the thermostat reads 78/79. It all wasted heat in my opinion. We spend 99% of the time downstairs

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Still hasn’t gotten cold enough for us to turn on the heat

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Originally Posted by 2Beez
Yes, you do but you will deal with what you got lol


No Sir, I got tools, in 30 minutes, us 3 can have a wall out for his new walk thru FP grin

Wade, that heat above may be why your living area is staying comfortable, at least that's my 1st thought

I have a friend that has a 2nd home in Colorado, on the 1st floor he installed a heating system (hot water), it almost makes the 2nd floor unbearable for me without an open window to vent some out, this is just the convection coming from the warm concrete below.


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put all my Christmas stuff up last week........my attic is cold!

my house is set at 65* stays off afternoon and over night. its 59-60* when i wake up. i'll turn it on to take the chill out.

i'll turn it off tomorrow morning, house will stay cold till the next cold front when i will turn heat back on.


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I keep mine at 70 Man Buzzsaw that is really cold in your house.

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Most newer homes have a combustion air source from outside into the fireplace. Homes are so tight these days that the fireplace can't breath.

The fresh air source has sometimes been nothing more than a 4" galvanized HVAC vent pipe through a wall and into the firebox. On the outside they will have a dryer vent hood with a screen to keep critters out.

Have you ever noticed on high-end apartments around DFW what looks like a clothes dryer vent hood on the side of a Masonite chimney? I was told that is a combustion air source for the fireplace. I imagine a small apartment needs this combustion air source even more so than a much larger home.

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Originally Posted by mattyg06
Don't go bigger on the fireplace, go smaller. If you want to improve your fireplace look up Rumford fireplaces. Modern fireplaces are actually much less efficient than this 200 year old design.


I’ll look into it, we were talking about a blower system.

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This prob won’t work, but, how can I take the warm air from my attic and pump it into my house? Lol. My damn attic is 75 degrees, turned been running the fireplace to the point the ash is falling out the front, and the heater has been off since yesterday.

Seems like wasting hot air just letting it sit in the attic. I’m bored, this weather sucks.


I have the same issue, I keep my downstairs set at 74/75 when it cold, I keep my upstairs set at 72 when it's cold. I can go upstairs and the thermostat reads 78/79. It all wasted heat in my opinion. We spend 99% of the time downstairs


Downstairs is 68, up stairs is 75-78 with nothing on, we have a walk in attic and spray foam insulation. There’s a bundle of warmth in that attic.

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Originally Posted by DannyB
Most newer homes have a combustion air source from outside into the fireplace. Homes are so tight these days that the fireplace can't breath.

The fresh air source has sometimes been nothing more than a 4" galvanized HVAC vent pipe through a wall and into the firebox. On the outside they will have a dryer vent hood with a screen to keep critters out.

Have you ever noticed on high-end apartments around DFW what looks like a clothes dryer vent hood on the side of a Masonite chimney? I was told that is a combustion air source for the fireplace. I imagine a small apartment needs this combustion air source even more so than a much larger home.



We have that in our fireplace. We have spray foam insulation so the house is very tight. Even our HAVC has a fresh air draw like what you mentioned.

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Originally Posted by BigPig
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Don't go bigger on the fireplace, go smaller. If you want to improve your fireplace look up Rumford fireplaces. Modern fireplaces are actually much less efficient than this 200 year old design.


I’ll look into it, we were talking about a blower system.


Lauren's folks have blowers and that will heat 2,400sf pretty easy. They have a BA fireplace insert though too.


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This prob won’t work, but, how can I take the warm air from my attic and pump it into my house? Lol. My damn attic is 75 degrees, turned been running the fireplace to the point the ash is falling out the front, and the heater has been off since yesterday.

Seems like wasting hot air just letting it sit in the attic. I’m bored, this weather sucks.


I have the same issue, I keep my downstairs set at 74/75 when it cold, I keep my upstairs set at 72 when it's cold. I can go upstairs and the thermostat reads 78/79. It all wasted heat in my opinion. We spend 99% of the time downstairs


Downstairs is 68, up stairs is 75-78 with nothing on, we have a walk in attic and spray foam insulation. There’s a bundle of warmth in that attic.


My attic is much colder, I would say in the 50's. It huge though I would say it at least 20 feet high in the highest part.

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I am not getting into theory of heat flow here. But, your warm attic acts like a blanket for the WHOLE HOUSE. I would not try to introduce attic air into your living space. Remember, with a foamed house, the entire structure is climate controlled.

The temperature difference between upstairs and down stairs is caused by an open floor plan. It is the price you pay for vaulted ceilings.

Although the condition exists year round, it is more evident in colder weather. I expect using any source of auxiliary heat would increase the temperature difference between up and down stairs.

The only solution is to circulate the upstairs air to the downstairs. No one addresses these issues here because winter is here is mild. The cost does not justify the benifit.

Some home owners can run a ceiling fan or pedestal fan in open upstairs landing pushing upstairs air down. Or a ceiling fan in a downstairs room open to the upstairs in reverse at slowest speed. This action will stir the air in the common area. Effectiveness will vary dependant on floor plan and air volume.

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I keep mine at 70 Man Buzzsaw that is really cold in your house.

yes, its 60* in here now, no more heater since the weather is warming to the 70's this weekend. probably why i'm sick hammer


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Originally Posted by BigPig
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This prob won’t work, but, how can I take the warm air from my attic and pump it into my house? Lol. My damn attic is 75 degrees, turned been running the fireplace to the point the ash is falling out the front, and the heater has been off since yesterday.

Seems like wasting hot air just letting it sit in the attic. I’m bored, this weather sucks.


I have the same issue, I keep my downstairs set at 74/75 when it cold, I keep my upstairs set at 72 when it's cold. I can go upstairs and the thermostat reads 78/79. It all wasted heat in my opinion. We spend 99% of the time downstairs


Downstairs is 68, up stairs is 75-78 with nothing on, we have a walk in attic and spray foam insulation. There’s a bundle of warmth in that attic.


Hey dummy. It is working like it is supposed to, if you have a foamed roof, and not a foamed ceiling. HVAC has less work to do, in an attic that is near the living space temp. This summer, it should not be 135° in the attic.


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I circulate the air in my house with the fan. It spreads it pretty well and gets rid of hold/cold spots.

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This prob won’t work, but, how can I take the warm air from my attic and pump it into my house? Lol. My damn attic is 75 degrees, turned been running the fireplace to the point the ash is falling out the front, and the heater has been off since yesterday.

Seems like wasting hot air just letting it sit in the attic. I’m bored, this weather sucks.


I have the same issue, I keep my downstairs set at 74/75 when it cold, I keep my upstairs set at 72 when it's cold. I can go upstairs and the thermostat reads 78/79. It all wasted heat in my opinion. We spend 99% of the time downstairs


Downstairs is 68, up stairs is 75-78 with nothing on, we have a walk in attic and spray foam insulation. There’s a bundle of warmth in that attic.


Hey dummy. It is working like it is supposed to, if you have a foamed roof, and not a foamed ceiling. HVAC has less work to do, in an attic that is near the living space temp. This summer, it should not be 135° in the attic.



This past summer it made it to 80 in the attic. The roof is foamed, not the ceiling. Biggest complaint is that our master bedroom is an oven at 68 degrees while the side of the house with the thermostat is cold, it need to balance itself out and fabs aren’t cutting it.

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