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Garage door opener #7367026 12/04/18 10:48 PM
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I have a 4 door shop and am getting tired of manually opening the bay doors. The main bay door is 9' wide by 8' tall. I want to install an electric opener. The door does not have the typical coiled spring on the rod attached to the header of the door. It has springs on either side of the door track that run along the top of track with a wire pulley. Will I need to remove those springs and have someone install the spring coil on the rod system? Thanks in advance for the professional input.

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Not a professional but if the doors are balanced by the springs to the point you can lift them by hand like a garage door then a mid power garage door opener will work.
My shop as 2 doors that are the same size (called 10' x 8') and they have been working for over 10 years on regular openers. One is the chain type and the other is the screw type.

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You want a jackshaft opener. Click this link

I've installed 4 of these as we've moved around, have one sitting on the floor to put in the garage we just added on. I can't comment on if you can use a residential or commercial version based on your door, but a call to Liftmaster can probably get you going.

The best thing about them and why I use them is there's nothing overhead and they install in about 30 minutes with no adjusting ever required.


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our old house's garage, had the two side spring type system on all three of the doors, two doors (1 was 10x7 and the other was 12x7) had a electric opener on each. The third door (boat slot had a 10x9 didn't have an opener.


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Originally Posted by CharlieCTx
You want a jackshaft opener. Click this link

I've installed 4 of these as we've moved around, have one sitting on the floor to put in the garage we just added on. I can't comment on if you can use a residential or commercial version based on your door, but a call to Liftmaster can probably get you going.

The best thing about them and why I use them is there's nothing overhead and they install in about 30 minutes with no adjusting ever required.


There's no shaft on a stretch spring door so a jack shaft opener won't work. Just make sure the door is a little on the heavy side so that it will close easy. It is easier for a door opener to lift a door than it is to push a door down. Also if it is a metal door make sure that you put a strut on the top section for support or the top section can bend.


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Originally Posted by OkieDokie
[There's no shaft on a stretch spring door so a jack shaft opener won't work.


I couldn't tell what kind of door he had, is this it?

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Originally Posted by CharlieCTx
Originally Posted by OkieDokie
[There's no shaft on a stretch spring door so a jack shaft opener won't work.


I couldn't tell what kind of door he had, is this it?

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That is it.

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Not proffesional, but have some experience.

That is an old school residential set up. Most older homes with 2 door 2 car garages used that set up.
As stated, if the door springs and tracks are adjusted properly and the tracks are lubricated, a regular GDO will work.

My inlaws house had that set up, had one screw Genie and one chain drive Craftsman.

Also as stated consider put a stiffener on top rail is door is aluminium. Seems like every opener I worked with had a ten foot lift capacity.

The best part of that lift system is Home Depot sold springs and rollers.

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My two-door garage has the same setup and I have two chain-drive, Craftsman door openers. Both have been working great for more years than I can remember.

As someone has already pointed out, the key is to have springs that fit the weight of your doors. When theyíre right, you can lift the door from itís closed position to fully open with one hand.

Also, Iíve always thought this setup was more recent than the type with a long rod and spring across the top front of the door.


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Originally Posted by Texas Dan
My two-door garage has the same setup and I have two chain-drive, Craftsman door openers. Both have been working great for more years than I can remember.

As someone has already pointed out, the key is to have springs that fit the weight of your doors. When theyíre right, you can lift the door from itís closed position to fully open with one hand.

Also, Iíve always thought this setup was more recent than the type with a long rod and spring across the top front of the door.


I know I said old school, but I remember seeing this set up on houses built in 60s and early 70s. But it really depends on how the builing is framed. A 2 car 2 door garage uses the mullion between the doors as load bearing roof support. A 2 car single 16 foot door uses a 2 x 12 header or manufactured headed over the single door.

If I remember correctly, one piece swing up doors had levers and springs. The cable and springs set up was introduced with sectional doors. Now when a one piece door needs replaced, a sectional is used and and the cable sytem is used. I have been involved in all three types.

My old school adjective is relative to framing method for a single story home. Your correct. This method is current.

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Thanks for all the info. I am going to put in a standard door opener and see what happens.

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