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Re: Well I let Myself get in trouble [Re: sunsetroosters] #7354521 11/21/18 04:19 PM
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I see great in low light with my $200 Nikon Scope I am amazed at how much light it gathers. I have never looked through anything very fancy in low light so maybe that is why I am satisfied with what I have, nothing to compare it to. Anyway I can see before and after legal with my scope just fine.

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Oh and the steiners you donít have to focus. Not sure why not but that seems like a cool feature.

Re: Well I let Myself get in trouble [Re: sunsetroosters] #7354526 11/21/18 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by sunsetroosters
Man. Thank you guys for the suggestions. Iím fixing to buy a vortex scope for that rifle. I guess Iíll have to look at some German glass as well. Honestly I dont Mind spending the money but I just Didnít think it could take that much. Hopefully I can Find a great deal on Black Friday.


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Re: Well I let Myself get in trouble [Re: RattlesnakeDan] #7354531 11/21/18 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RattlesnakeDan
Careful choosing a low end Vortex. I bought 2 this year under $200 and they are the worst low light scopes I have ever had. Great in daylight but low light they are bad.


The low end Vortex Diamondbacks aren't very good, a buddy of mine threw his in the glove box after realizing that they weren't great.


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Re: Well I let Myself get in trouble [Re: sunsetroosters] #7354544 11/21/18 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sunsetroosters
Oh and the steiners you donít have to focus. Not sure why not but that seems like a cool feature.


Sounds like you have the right plan. The steiners are a much better choice for the extra money. But don't buy until you try the $800-1000 range recommendations you've been given.

Check out what's left in the Cabelas bargain cave. They could have the Meopta I recommended under their Cabelas brand Euro HD. I've seen them there before for $700. Be careful, as they have changed their new stuff under their brand to Vortex.


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Re: Well I let Myself get in trouble [Re: sunsetroosters] #7354648 11/21/18 06:34 PM
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I bought a pair of Bausch & Lomb about 20 yrs ago, and still use them to this day. I think I paid between $400-500 for them back then. My wife had a pair that "looked" similar. After she looked thru mine, she tried to seriously tell me that she was pretty sure they were hers and mine were the inferior brand that she had. I quickly schooled her on her mistaken identity of her POS binos, and how much I paid for them, BEFORE I ever even knew that she existed.

Re: Well I let Myself get in trouble [Re: Herbie Hancock] #7354654 11/21/18 06:39 PM
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I wonder If the diamondback scopes are just as bad??? 😬😬😬 I was actually gonna buy one of those scopes

Re: Well I let Myself get in trouble [Re: sunsetroosters] #7354683 11/21/18 07:36 PM
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Here is a link to Steiner Predator. In the description the state "Ultimate Low Light Performer" and I agree. I have had mine for more than ten years and they are still crisp and clear.

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Re: Well I let Myself get in trouble [Re: sunsetroosters] #7354693 11/21/18 07:50 PM
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Zeiss......


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Re: Well I let Myself get in trouble [Re: sunsetroosters] #7354720 11/21/18 08:35 PM
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Zeiss, Leica and Meopta are a bit out of Op's preferred price range

Re: Well I let Myself get in trouble [Re: sunsetroosters] #7354965 11/22/18 01:40 AM
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The thing is, how much of a difference am I really Gonna be able to tell in a well lit store? Just wanted to throw this out there and see, has anyone tried the sig saur stuff? I seen They have some high end stuff.

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Great advice above on binocs. Suggest you rethink the Vortex scope. The eye relief is not good at all compared to the other scopes that I have. If you persist on the Vortex, I will make you an offer you can not refuse on a Diamondback.

Re: Well I let Myself get in trouble [Re: wp75169] #7355006 11/22/18 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by wp75169
It amazes me people ask for $300 recommendations and people say you have to spend 3x that. For the money the Bushnell Legend Ultra HD 10x40 binoculars are awesome. Theyíre $200-240 depending on where you buy them. Clarity and low light performance is excellent. Color on them is very poor which in my opinion is irrelevant for hunters. They do make very poor bird watching binos due to the color issue.


Poor glass gives me a headache, always has. Bushnell and Nikon will do that to me. Good glass is worth it.


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I bought 2 sets of Steiner binocs about 20 years ago. Never regretted it.


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Zeiss. Few weeks ago had two bucks about 450 yards from me with my Nikon couldn't quite make out the quality of these bucks. My nephew had his Zeiss and no problem much clearer. Same power.

Re: Well I let Myself get in trouble [Re: sunsetroosters] #7355271 11/22/18 04:04 PM
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Dttto what 218 Bee said. Spend $1000.00 and never look back.

Re: Well I let Myself get in trouble [Re: sunsetroosters] #7357845 11/26/18 03:13 AM
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Well I finially Pulled the trigger after much looking and thinking. I went With the vortex vipers 10x50. Seemed like a great option and upgrade from what I have Had. After some discussion, I think These will always take care of me during legal shooting hours. I guess Time will only tell.

Re: Well I let Myself get in trouble [Re: sunsetroosters] #7359005 11/27/18 01:27 AM
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Another vote for Steiner. I've had mine about 10 years now. Still as good as the day I bought them. And I love not having to focus. Now you do have to adjust the eye pieces if you want to look at things inside 50 yards.


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Re: Well I let Myself get in trouble [Re: sunsetroosters] #7359885 11/27/18 09:08 PM
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When I was shopping to upgrade my binoculars, I went to a store that carried multiple brands and levels of each and looked thru each pair closely both in the store and outside at farther distances.
There was a very fine line between most of the middle to upper levels. I finalized on 10x42 Leupold as they just seemed a bit better for my eyes/vision.


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