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Pack goats yep goats #7356835 11/24/18 06:00 PM
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I have seen llamas, mules, horses but never pack goats? I was watching the Amazon show called Element. I guess copy rights won't let me post the link. The 2 hunters are in Nevada hunting high country mule deer. The truck is pulling a livestock trailer.

They open it and out come two Spanish goats. And yes they are used to pack the meat out from the harvested deer. I guess if you are starving kill the goats and have cabrito? I don't know. Check it out if you get a chance.

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Never heard of that before.....


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I have several friends here in Idaho that use their pack goats a lot. They will easily carry 25-50# of gear or extra water. They use them for the above timberline deer and sheep/goat hunts. The animals are cheaper, friendlier than llamas, and have a lot less issues. Don't have to take any extra food for them either.

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Iíve heard of it. Never seen it. Makes more sense than stinking llamas.

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I have read about them, there is supposed to be a place in Wyoming where you can rent the pack goats.


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I wonder if I can throw a pack on Curly Bill? I'll bet he can haul more than a few pounds.

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Originally Posted by HWY_MAN
I wonder if I can throw a pack on Curly Bill? I'll bet he can haul more than a few pounds.



I want you to video that attempt, it should go viral and then some. up


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Originally Posted by Sneaky
Iíve heard of it. Never seen it. Makes more sense than stinking llamas.



Sounds like a few goats and you and your group are set for the Colorado elk hunt up


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The complete guide to training pack goats.
https://www.dummies.com/home-garden/hobby-farming/raising-goats/how-to-train-your-goats-for-packing/

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How to Train Your Goats for Packing

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If youíre raising goats as part of your effort to live a green lifestyle, you may want to train them for packing. Although you can train almost any goat to pack, youíre better off looking for a goat with certain qualities:

Large: Dairy wethers are the most highly valued goats for packing. The bigger they are, the more they can carry.

Friendly and energetic: Pack goats have to work with you as a team, so theyíd better like humans. They also need to be able to take on the task of walking and carrying supplies.
Intelligent and curious: Intelligence and curiosity are good indicators that the goat can be successfully trained to pack. They will be in new and different situations where curiosity, rather than fearfulness, is important.

1. Teach your goat to accept being tied.
This is important because the goat will need to be tied when you stop to camp, eat, or just rest.
Make sure your goat has a sturdy collar that isnít too loose. Tie the goat to a gate or fence at back height with a rope or lead that is a foot to a foot-and-a-half long for a short period of time.
Stay nearby to ensure that your goat doesnít get hurt. If the goat starts to get tangled up, calmly untangle him and tie him to the fence again. The goat should accept being tied up after only a few sessions.

2. Teach your goat to follow you.
You will be leading your goat when you pack.

3. Teach your goat to stand.
Your goat will need to know to stand when youíre putting the pack saddle on him, or at other times on the trail.
When you are lead training and you come to a halt, say ďStandĒ or ďStop.Ē Pull up on the lead rope if your goat doesnít stop. Practice this repeatedly, rewarding your goat when he complies, until he gets it.

4. Teach your goat to wear a pannier.
He will need a pannier to carry gear. Otherwise your goat will just be hiking, rather than packing.
First, show your goat the pannier and let him examine it. Gently place the pad and saddle on his back. Tighten the cinch strap, then fasten the breast collar and, last, fasten the rump strap. Check to make sure that two fingers fit between the goat and the cinch strap.

Let your goat get used to wearing the pannier while itís empty and to go through steps one through three. Take him hiking with it empty. Before you load up the pannier to go on a hike, determine how much weight your goat can safely carry. Overloading a pack can injure the goat.
A yearling pack goat can carry 10 percent of its body weight in a pannier. An older goat can carry up to 15 percent of its body weight.



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Google Marc Warnke, he has pack goats, even has a signature line of Panniers. He's in Colorado i believe.


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Originally Posted by 7mag
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Iíve heard of it. Never seen it. Makes more sense than stinking llamas.



Sounds like a few goats and you and your group are set for the Colorado elk hunt up


And they can keep the lawn mowed the rest of the year.

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Originally Posted by Sneaky
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I’ve heard of it. Never seen it. Makes more sense than stinking llamas.



Sounds like a few goats and you and your group are set for the Colorado elk hunt up


And they can keep the lawn mowed the rest of the year.


Do they still have goats in that yard behind the Stripes in Ballinger? That backyard used to be "mowed" down to the dirt.


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Iíve never noticed. Iíll have to look next time I go through there.

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Originally Posted by Sneaky
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Iíve heard of it. Never seen it. Makes more sense than stinking llamas.



Sounds like a few goats and you and your group are set for the Colorado elk hunt up


And they can keep the lawn mowed the rest of the year.


As long as you can keep them fenced in.

My Ag teacher said, "if you can pitch a bucket of water through the fence, a goat can get out of it".


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There is a Ham Radio Operator, WG0AT that has pack goats he regularly uses. His big thing is operating off mountain tops Summits On The Air (SOTA).

Cool YouTube stuff on them.

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I googled it while back they really cannot pack enough weight for them to be effective.

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Originally Posted by ducknbass
I googled it while back they really cannot pack enough weight for them to be effective.



The ones I saw were packing 25-30 lbs. That's not bad imo.


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If you are thinking of using them for elk hunting, you are correct. A big wether will only weigh around 200#, allowing them to carry 30-50#. Even really big and in-shape llamas can only pack 80-100 lb each. My friends take 4 of them on an outing.

The advantage is they will go for days on no food and little water, and can climb where no horse or llama would ever think of going. Makes them perfect for mtn sheep, mtn goats, or muley bucks above timberline.

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A friend of mine had 2 goats that were pack animals when he hunted Montana. They wore blaze orange coats and helped him pack out his mule deer. Great animals to have around. Easy to care for, dont get spooked smelling blood. They work great.


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And you can BBQ them when the hunt is over. up


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Originally Posted by dogcatcher
And you can BBQ them when the hunt is over. up



Thats what I said lol


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I don't see the point. You need six or seven goats to haul what two lamas can carry, and lamas are not food for coyotes.

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Originally Posted by gusick
I don't see the point. You need six or seven goats to haul what two lamas can carry, and lamas are not food for coyotes.


Youíll never catch me using those foul, creepy beasts. Goats seem like a much better alternative.

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Originally Posted by Sneaky
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I don't see the point. You need six or seven goats to haul what two lamas can carry, and lamas are not food for coyotes.


Youíll never catch me using those foul, creepy beasts. Goats seem like a much better alternative.


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welp, there you have it, pack goats


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