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Bird Differentiations #7342791
11/09/18 12:58 AM
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I have a 3 yo female setter that came out of the womb on birds pointed. I have taken a couple of 100 wild birds over her in the last 3 seasons. One of if not the best young dog I have ever gotten my hands on. Fast forward to this fall and I got a chance to send her with a trainer to Eastern Montana. I got a call about 2 weeks in and the trainer asked ď I thought this dog was broke. She has run up and chased every bird she has encountered.Ē My dog spent 5 weeks up there and never once pointed. I was sick! The birds up there were pheasants, Huns, and prairie chickens. I get her back down south and get her on quail again and it is like she has never missed a beat. Steady as a rock!

Tell me why and what gives?

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She won't hunt for yankees. If she is steady as a rock, what was the trainer gong to do for her ?

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Get her in shape.

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Well it is a setter. wink Just kidding. I don't know. Maybe she was mad at you. Maybe she will only work for you. New birds, new country.... who knows. The only way to know is take her there yourself sometime. I know the first time they see those big birds their eyes get big as saucers.

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The prairie has a tendency to open up dogs and make them run bigger. On unfamiliar birds, in unfamiliar situations some dogs take awhile to adjust. Being on a chain string with a dozen other dogs can also change their behavior for awhile. If she is doing fine back home I wouldn't worry. If she is to go north again, u take her, don't send her to a trainer.
Many trainers don't have the time to spend on individual dogs. They may only work once a day, so the dog may have not had enough time to adjust to new birds and big open country. My guess is she never had any chances at huns, was probably just worked on sharptails and pheasants. If she was staunch on quail and been shot over for three years, why did you send her to the trainer?
Was there a specific issue, or did you just want to get her in shape for the season?

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I sent her to get in shape and let her work instead of laying around all fall. Typically, the prairie is magic for dogs at all stages of their careers. People still send champions up there every summer just to keep them sharp.

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My take. The reason people send dogs up north is for young sharptails. You didnít mention that. Pheasants compared to bobwhites are a much more challenging bird. They run. Running birds are a lot more of a test than tight sitting bobwhites.
Huns are bonus birds where I hunt in east Montana. Meaning thereís not enough of them to be the primary bird. That may be the case on Huns just not enough exposure to them. Prairie chickens I donít hunt so canít help you there

Hate to sound rude but bobwhites on private land are the least challenging game bird for pointers.

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I have pheasant hunted Iowa and Kansas in years past with my Texas wild quail dogs that had never seen a pheasant. They pointed and held them like they had been doing it all their life. There was not even an adjustment period. Pointed straight out of the box and almost immediately on wild pheasants. Now that was a special set of dogs at the time. They knew what they were doing wherever they were.

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