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270 vs 30-06
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10/29/18 09:15 PM
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2 great hunting rounds.
I would say the advantage to the 270 is that since it is a flatter bullet so it is better at longer ranges than the 06
and the advantage to the 06 is that it will hit harder with the heavier bullets and therefore have more energy and greater knockdown power
Is one better than the other? These are 2 very closely matched bullets in popularity and hunting tradition.
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/29/18 09:32 PM
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From a hunting perspective/at hunting distances the 06 beats the .270 in every way. Lots of bullet choices and weights allowing it to take any game in NA, and if recoil is a concern lighter loads are available.
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/29/18 09:33 PM
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2 great hunting rounds.
I would say the advantage to the 270 is that since it is a flatter bullet so it is better at longer ranges than the 06 NRA's definition of long range is 600+ yards. The .30-06 with 175 gr, or heavier bullets will go much farther, and wind drift less, than the .270 in the typical bullets most everyone's .270 will stabilize.
and the advantage to the 06 is that it will hit harder with the heavier bullets and therefore have more energy and greater knockdown powerThat will take a consultation with a ballistic calculator. The initial speed of the .270 might have the advantage out of the gate, but I suspect the .30-06 will exceed the .270 at a point down range, and continue to deliver more foot pounds as far as one want's to compare
Is one better than the other? These are 2 very closely matched bullets in popularity and hunting tradition.Yes the .270 is better for the tasks some people need it to do. And the .30-06 is better at some different tasks other people need it to do.
what say the THFers?
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/29/18 09:38 PM
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What the Fireman says! IMO, if you're hunting Texas animals at what I consider to be "reasonable" ranges (under 500 yards), you're good to go with either of these great, old calibers.
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/29/18 09:42 PM
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The average cost of 30-06 ammo is a little lighter on the pocket book than the .270, and even more so than its more distant cousin the 25-06. Of course the 25-06 probably beats them both on speed and distance, but at a deeper dig into the pocketbook.
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/29/18 09:45 PM
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Old calibers that have been getting it done much longer than most of us have been alive and in the case of the 30-06 112 years. 270 over 90 years and both are still popular speaks a lot for them. if I had to pick one standard caliber to hunt mouse to moose it would be the 30-06. For a reloader it is that versatile
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/29/18 09:55 PM
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Are we seriously talking about something other than the 6.5 FanBoy?
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/29/18 09:57 PM
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Bullet selection is better in the '06. You can load anything from 90 grain lasers to 225 grain mortars effectively, and have 1 rifle that will do many jobs.
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/29/18 10:00 PM
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The 3006 carries more energy, but the 270 is the flattest shooting non magnum cartridge that carries at least 1000 foot pounds at 500 yards (the only non magnum flatter at 500 is things like 204 22-50). If you don't believe me, consult the hornady ballistic chart. The 270 is also a little easier on the shoulder. Cost on standard ammo is just about the same. I love both rounds and have been an 06 guy for a long time, but the 270 has started to win me over. If i hunted predominately elk and bigger animals i would use the 06, but if i hunted predominately deer with just a little of the larger game i would opt for the 270, but i have both and i like that the best
So depends on what you want, i guess
For long range target shooting the 3006 will basically always win cause the 270 suffers the same Achilles heel of the 6mm Remington, to slow of a standard twist rate.
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/29/18 10:18 PM
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I always opted for the .270. Im not a fan of the 06
The 30-06 is a perfectly capable cartridge however imo a .270 is just as good a deer round, with less recoil and in 180 grain and up weights the 06 punches as hard as a .300 win mag in terms of recoil with less energy
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/29/18 10:29 PM
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I like to shoot stuff.
And I like beans in my chilli.
And I dont care one way or another about high fences.
I like glocks AND 1911s
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/29/18 10:34 PM
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Dead is dead. And both calibers are dead.
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/29/18 10:41 PM
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Dead is dead. And both calibers are dead.
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/29/18 10:45 PM
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Dead is dead. And both calibers are dead. That is what i thought, but the one gun for texas thread is dominated by the poor old 270. It seems the 270 has become the new whipping dog, along with the 3006, 45acp, 40 s&w. Kinda funny how that works
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/29/18 10:59 PM
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If you ain't got both a .270 and 30-06 hunting rifle you're either too old to take the recoil, I understand the need to have something smaller, or too scared of the recoil and need to shoot a 6.5 creedmore. In which case you should be shooting be a red ryder!
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/29/18 11:07 PM
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The 3006 carries more energy, but the 270 is the flattest shooting non magnum cartridge that carries at least 1000 foot pounds at 500 yards (the only non magnum flatter at 500 is things like 204 22-50). If you don't believe me, consult the hornady ballistic chart. The 270 is also a little easier on the shoulder. Cost on standard ammo is just about the same. I love both rounds and have been an 06 guy for a long time, but the 270 has started to win me over. If i hunted predominately elk and bigger animals i would use the 06, but if i hunted predominately deer with just a little of the larger game i would opt for the 270, but i have both and i like that the best
So depends on what you want, i guess
For long range target shooting the 3006 will basically always win cause the 270 suffers the same Achilles heel of the 6mm Remington, to slow of a standard twist rate. At 500 you still have to dial or hold elevation for both. To me once you hit that point which one is flatter is irrelevant. Thats just my opinion but I can dial 10 mils as easy as 2. Whats the difference? I am curious about which one carries more energy in standard weights. Say 140 vs 168 or 150 vs 178. I dont have a clue as to which is better at that range. Go further and the 06 gets the clear nod.
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/29/18 11:14 PM
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The 3006 carries more energy, but the 270 is the flattest shooting non magnum cartridge that carries at least 1000 foot pounds at 500 yards (the only non magnum flatter at 500 is things like 204 22-50). If you don't believe me, consult the hornady ballistic chart. The 270 is also a little easier on the shoulder. Cost on standard ammo is just about the same. I love both rounds and have been an 06 guy for a long time, but the 270 has started to win me over. If i hunted predominately elk and bigger animals i would use the 06, but if i hunted predominately deer with just a little of the larger game i would opt for the 270, but i have both and i like that the best
So depends on what you want, i guess
For long range target shooting the 3006 will basically always win cause the 270 suffers the same Achilles heel of the 6mm Remington, to slow of a standard twist rate. At 500 you still have to dial or hold elevation for both. To me once you hit that point which one is flatter is irrelevant. Thats just my opinion but I can dial 10 mils as easy as 2. Whats the difference? I am curious about which one carries more energy in standard weights. Say 140 vs 168 or 150 vs 178. I dont have a clue as to which is better at that range. Go further and the 06 gets the clear nod. I agree mostly but the flatter shooter will have a little more margin for error, especially when holding over. But for most stuff it is a wash
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/29/18 11:25 PM
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Dead is dead. And both calibers are dead. That is what i thought, but the one gun for texas thread is dominated by the poor old 270. It seems the 270 has become the new whipping dog, along with the 3006, 45acp, 40 s&w. Kinda funny how that works The 45 ACP is still dope...Yo!
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/29/18 11:27 PM
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Are we seriously talking about something other than the 6.5 FanBoy? By all means, please include the word Tikka for those unfamiliar with the jargon
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/29/18 11:51 PM
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20 years ago people would have laughed at a 6.5 creedmore. Well, they kinda did with the .260 Remington.
The .270 was immensely popular for over 60years and the 06 a tad longer than that
What makes me chuckle is In the last 20 years only a handful of rounds have been introduced that offer a real edge in hunting performance over the .270
The .270 is and will always be one of the best hunting rounds for medium sized game
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/29/18 11:54 PM
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Take out the reference to the Tikka and the 6.5 and this post could have been 40+ years old. And the debate continues.
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/29/18 11:56 PM
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.270 cuz i got one
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/30/18 12:16 AM
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Never seen a real difference. The .270 recoil never seemed all that much lighter to me. On the other hand, 270 WSM recoil seems about the same as 30/06 and you get a real boost in performance.
Only downside to the WSM is one less round in the mag, which is hardly ever an issue.
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/30/18 01:09 AM
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I never will understand people writing so negatively about something that works very well.
It is backwards.
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Re: 270 vs 30-06
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10/30/18 01:22 AM
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.270 vs .30-06 ? 6 of one or half dozen of the other. Do you prefer blonds or brunettes? No practical difference.
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