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Pup breeding #7328686 10/27/18 02:59 PM
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How close is too close? I know thereís a lot of line breeding in the pointers. If sire and dam of a litter have same dam, that seems pretty close. Opinions from the experts?


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Re: Pup breeding [Re: 68rustbucket] #7328700 10/27/18 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted By: 68rustbucket
How close is too close? I know thereís a lot of line breeding in the pointers. If sire and dam of a litter have same dam, that seems pretty close. Opinions from the experts?


If possible look at the COI. Anything over 12 and I'd be concerned. I recently contemplated a line breeding on FC AFC Shaq that would produce pups with a COI of 15 but ultimately decided against it. Shaq is my dog's grandsire and the dog I wanted to breed to had Shaq as the sire.

I know that breeding cousins is not uncommon but what you're describing is breeding half siblings. I bet that's too close. IMO

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How is COI factored?


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Originally Posted By: 68rustbucket
How is COI factored?


Well I'm not entirely certain. There are a couple of databases that do it. You need to have st least 10-12 generations.

If the dogs are in K9data.com you can do a test breeding and in a couple weeks they will post the COI.

http://www.dogbreedhealth.com/a-beginners-guide-to-coi/

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Half siblings 12.5%


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Originally Posted By: 68rustbucket
Half siblings 12.5%


I think it could be higher depending on common ancestors on the sire side...

12.5 would not be enough to scare me off if i really liked the breeding.

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It could be higher. I think pointer breeders look at it differently than the lab folks


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Professional call it line breeding. Back yardears call it in breeding.


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So Bill, whatís your take on half siblings? I found a litter that had Guard Rail blood in the common dam


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Risky but depends on the nick.


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Re: Pup breeding [Re: 68rustbucket] #7329334 10/28/18 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted By: 68rustbucket
It could be higher. I think pointer breeders look at it differently than the lab folks

I've own one that had a COI of 35.2
She was a awesome little Vizsla.
My newest one is 15.9.



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I think Iíve heard that somewhere before


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I know Iíve heard that before.

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