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Opinions on new truck #7236546 07/26/18 09:00 PM
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After almost 12 years and 200,000 miles with my Nissan Titan 4x4, Iím thinking about an upgrade.

Trying to decide between a new Ford Raptor, or a regular truck lifted 6 inchesÖmaybe an F-150 Lariat/Platinum. I donít purposely seek out any hardcore off-roading, but sometimes my lifestyle (camping, hunting, beachÖ) has put me in places that Iíve had to use my truckís full capabilities such as creek crossing, climbing, mud, ruts, water, and rough terrain (East Texas pipeline stuff). Any 4WD truck would do what I need; the difference is mostly style. A Raptor has its own style with the wide aggressive stance and long wheel travel but seems to sit kind of low to the ground. On the other hand the regular F-150s lifted 6 inches look really nice, although not as tough in the suspension.

Humor me, which style of truck has more of the ďfun/cool factorĒ in your opinion? I understand lots of folks are ok with normal trucks and donít see the sense in what Iím asking, but hey Iím approaching middle age and Iím bored. So now that I have the means, I really want my next truck to have the cool off-road look.

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I drive off road just about every day. Can be as mundane as a gravel/caliche ranch road or it could be crossing creeks and climbing hills. Don't see much mud these days because it doesent exist in my part of the world


I had good luck with both my ford and chevy 1/2 tons. I had a 3" lift on the ford and a 4" on my chevy. Both were great offroad trucks.


The raptor, to me, is a gimmick. If you are going to be driving 70 mph down a washboard road then yes, it works good for that. But it won't out off road a properly equipped non-raptor half ton the way regular people drive.

If I were to buy another half ton tomorrow I would go Ford and throw a 6" lift and 35's on it and drive wherever I wanted.


my Z71 did fantastic offroad btw as well....probably a tad better than the ford but the ford has rear A/C and larger back seats

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Get the FX4, whatever lift and tires you want, and it will be a good off road truck. I miss the off road capability of my 2012 F150. The electric lockers sure makes a world of difference in the wet stuff

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I second the Ford recommendation....but not the FX4. The Chinese made Rancho branded shocks on the FX4 are garbage!!! Get straight 4X4 and add skid plate. Better ride and less $. I swapped out the crappy Rancho's on my FX4 with Bilstein 5100's (steering stabilizer too!) and couldn't be happier with the upgrade. Ford and Rancho have a "marketing agreement" with the FX4's...nothing but a cheap Chinese shock with Rancho logo/colors. Mine is an F250, but rides like a Caddy with the shock upgrade!

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Originally Posted By: Shortya
I second the Ford recommendation....but not the FX4. The Chinese made Rancho branded shocks on the FX4 are garbage!!! Get straight 4X4 and add skid plate. Better ride and less $. I swapped out the crappy Rancho's on my FX4 with Bilstein 5100's (steering stabilizer too!) and couldn't be happier with the upgrade. Ford and Rancho have a "marketing agreement" with the FX4's...nothing but a cheap Chinese shock with Rancho logo/colors. Mine is an F250, but rides like a Caddy with the shock upgrade!


F-150ís donít have steering stabilizers. The FX4 has more off road features than just shock & skid plates

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Originally Posted By: 7six2
After almost 12 years and 200,000 miles with my Nissan Titan 4x4, Iím thinking about an upgrade.

Trying to decide between a new Ford Raptor, or a regular truck lifted 6 inchesÖmaybe an F-150 Lariat/Platinum. I donít purposely seek out any hardcore off-roading, but sometimes my lifestyle (camping, hunting, beachÖ) has put me in places that Iíve had to use my truckís full capabilities such as creek crossing, climbing, mud, ruts, water, and rough terrain (East Texas pipeline stuff). Any 4WD truck would do what I need; the difference is mostly style. A Raptor has its own style with the wide aggressive stance and long wheel travel but seems to sit kind of low to the ground. On the other hand the regular F-150s lifted 6 inches look really nice, although not as tough in the suspension.

Humor me, which style of truck has more of the ďfun/cool factorĒ in your opinion? I understand lots of folks are ok with normal trucks and donít see the sense in what Iím asking, but hey Iím approaching middle age and Iím bored. So now that I have the means, I really want my next truck to have the cool off-road look.


You can lift a half ton 6" and then fit the same size tire the raptor has on it stock which means you have exactly the same ground clearance.

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I've got a 2018 Raptor. Fun truck, but it's getting traded in next week.

You mention camping/hunting, guessing you pull a trailer from time to time....get the regular F150, you'll be a lot happier.

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Originally Posted By: z71dustin
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After almost 12 years and 200,000 miles with my Nissan Titan 4x4, Iím thinking about an upgrade.

Trying to decide between a new Ford Raptor, or a regular truck lifted 6 inchesÖmaybe an F-150 Lariat/Platinum. I donít purposely seek out any hardcore off-roading, but sometimes my lifestyle (camping, hunting, beachÖ) has put me in places that Iíve had to use my truckís full capabilities such as creek crossing, climbing, mud, ruts, water, and rough terrain (East Texas pipeline stuff). Any 4WD truck would do what I need; the difference is mostly style. A Raptor has its own style with the wide aggressive stance and long wheel travel but seems to sit kind of low to the ground. On the other hand the regular F-150s lifted 6 inches look really nice, although not as tough in the suspension.

Humor me, which style of truck has more of the ďfun/cool factorĒ in your opinion? I understand lots of folks are ok with normal trucks and donít see the sense in what Iím asking, but hey Iím approaching middle age and Iím bored. So now that I have the means, I really want my next truck to have the cool off-road look.


You can lift a half ton 6" and then fit the same size tire the raptor has on it stock which means you have exactly the same ground clearance.


Yes and no. Under the axle yes, but the lifted truck will have more clearance under the frame, bumpers, etc. The Raptor clears the 35ís with wider A-arms and flared fenders

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Get a regular late model Ford F-150 4x4 Platinum and put a modest lift kit on it. The Raptor is way overpriced.

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Is your Nissan lifted?

Assuming this is a daily driver? I wouldn't want a to climb in/out of a jacked up truck every day, also they don't get along with parking garages. Just some thoughts to keep in mind.


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Is your Nissan lifted?

Assuming this is a daily driver? I wouldn't want a to climb in/out of a jacked up truck every day, also they don't get along with parking garages. Just some thoughts to keep in mind.


Heck, my stock Z71 doesnít get along with parking garages!

You can always find a dealer that sells ďnewĒ lifted versions of their 4wd pickups...that will carry a full warranty on the lifted truck parts...sometimes you can even sneak up on a screaming good deal on them, relative to the cost of doing it yourself and no warranty on the truck or parts...Just saying, after owning, driving, lifting many capable 4wd Chevy vehicles, given the IFS suspensions, I would let the dealer do it and warranty it as well.

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Is your Nissan lifted?

Assuming this is a daily driver? I wouldn't want a to climb in/out of a jacked up truck every day, also they don't get along with parking garages. Just some thoughts to keep in mind.


Heck, my stock Z71 doesnít get along with parking garages!

You can always find a dealer that sells ďnewĒ lifted versions of their 4wd pickups...that will carry a full warranty on the lifted truck parts...sometimes you can even sneak up on a screaming good deal on them, relative to the cost of doing it yourself and no warranty on the truck or parts...Just saying, after owning, driving, lifting many capable 4wd Chevy vehicles, given the IFS suspensions, I would let the dealer do it and warranty it as well.


How does your stock Z71 not fit in parking garages? My Ram 2500 gets in under the 6í8Ē parking garages.

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I can tell you this....

After driving 50k miles in it, thru the deserts of West Texas, to the Mountains of Colorado, New Mexico and Arizona, thru rain, sleet, snow, and mud, My FX4 F-250 Powerstroke absolutely sucks off road.



in mud its maybe slightly better locked in 4low than my Z71 was in 2wd. Got a reminder the other day after a few inches of rain just how crappy diesels are in the mud.



Still pulls like a mug though, and for the miles I put on its probably the best option for me, but dang do they suck off road. in any mud at all its a butt pucker 100% of the time

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I can tell you this....

After driving 50k miles in it, thru the deserts of West Texas, to the Mountains of Colorado, New Mexico and Arizona, thru rain, sleet, snow, and mud, My FX4 F-250 Powerstroke absolutely sucks off road.



in mud its maybe slightly better locked in 4low than my Z71 was in 2wd. Got a reminder the other day after a few inches of rain just how crappy diesels are in the mud.



Still pulls like a mug though, and for the miles I put on its probably the best option for me, but dang do they suck off road. in any mud at all its a butt pucker 100% of the time


Yeah my experience is the same. Those diesels are just too darn heavy to be decent off-road. It's major pucker in mud and sand. They are a joy to haul with though.


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Why wouldn't you buy a new Titan Pro 4X. I have 224K on my 04 Titan, it has been a great truck. Plus with the 5 year 100K warranty, its the best one out there.


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Had F150 with lifts and 37.5s Open Country M/T. It was too tall. At a little over middle aged I wanted a 4wd comfort/style (concrete queen/Sunday ride) so I bought a 2016 F150 FX4 Platinum, picked out a 4 wheel shop to add 6" lift, 35s Open County R/T much better ride that M/T for in town, etc and had dealer take it to them for the work and had it rolled into the truck (no mark ups) so that all covered under dealer warranty before I took delivery. Rides and pulls my trailers/rv just fine. not my daily driver.

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Check out that new Ford Ecoboost Diesel. Put a 4" lift and 35's and your ready to go.

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Why wouldn't you buy a new Titan Pro 4X. I have 224K on my 04 Titan, it has been a great truck. Plus with the 5 year 100K warranty, its the best one out there.


Maybe because itís the ugliest truck ever created?

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Check out that new Ford Ecoboost Diesel. Put a 4" lift and 35's and your ready to go.


Buddy just bought one and loves it. Insane fuel mileage and pulls really good.

But he paid $3k over what I did for my 250 in the same trim level. He did get a sunroof though...

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Why wouldn't you buy a new Titan Pro 4X. I have 224K on my 04 Titan, it has been a great truck. Plus with the 5 year 100K warranty, its the best one out there.


Maybe because itís the ugliest truck ever created?


Stock I agree, leveled or lifted with AT tires and you're wrong. Will last longer than any domestic.


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If I could swing it, Iíd buy the raptor. Itís a cool looking truck with some real off road prowess. A buddy of mine has a 2018 model and has been attending some local ďraptor runs.Ē Iím impressed with what some of those guy are doing with stock trucks.

If not the raptor Iíd look at a Tundra. 4Ē lift on 35s.. they look great.

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Why wouldn't you buy a new Titan Pro 4X. I have 224K on my 04 Titan, it has been a great truck. Plus with the 5 year 100K warranty, its the best one out there.


Maybe because itís the ugliest truck ever created?


Stock I agree, leveled or lifted with AT tires and you're wrong. Will last longer than any domestic.


Saw one with a 4 or 6Ē lift on it.

Made it look a lot better.

Pulled up next to it and it was the size of my superduty. So your getting a superduty sized truck with a diesel that has about 1/2 the torque and 100 less HP


I donít see the benefit to owning one. The previous model was a lot smaller in body.



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