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HGC diet / Type II Diabetes / T replacment / Psalm 103 #7222669
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I've been contemplating whether to make this public, as it is so personal in nature. For the past decade I have been a type II diabetic. In my case, it is self inflicted based on diet and lifestyle. Through the years my doctor has gradually added new drugs and dosages, to the point he told me in March that insulin was the next step. At 325 lbs, keep in mind a decade ago I was at 395, and at mid 50's age-wise, I was ashamed of how far I had slipped. The real gut punch was discovering how much muscle is lost to diabetes, thus making the slope go from gentle decline to dropping over a cliff. I mean my A1c went from low 7's to low 8's in a 60 day period. My fasting blood sugar each morning ranged from 185 to 235. I'd wake up in the morning and my feet would shuffle like an old man. My wife finally decided to stop making me biscuits and gravy and told me she was putting us on the HCG program.

Here's what I've found in my own 4-5 month journey. I was addicted to carbs and never knew it. I thought I understood nutrition and fitness principles...I did not.

The HCG diet that we went on is simple. You rub a hormone creme on in the morning for 37 days, it is the hormone pregnant women produce, basically telling your body it is not starving and allows you to burn fat without your brain convincing yourself you are starving. During the 40 day hormone phase you eat 500 calories of lean meat and very strict types and portions of vegetables. Basically, a uber low carb diet. What I felt 7-10 days in was what I can only imagine a heroin addict feels when going through withdrawls. The hunger for tortilla chips, any carbs, was fierce.

A month before I began the diet I began walking. The first two weeks I could barely make a mile each morning and I was so out of shape my feet blistered. After the first two weeks I was readily able to make two miles. Then I started doing 2 in the morning and 1/2 in the evening. At about 6 weeks, I set the objective of being able to do 2 miles in 30 minutes. I wasn't even close. I also started going to gym, working on the machines, and swimming. Progress was painfully slow. I had lost so much muscle I couldn't lift a 3rd of what I could in college. It was very sad.

The same doctor offered T replacement therapy. At this point I'd try almost anything to reverse a fraction of the impact of the irresponsibility of the prior decade. I found the T replacement thread in this forum and sincerely appreciated the candid back and forth debate. My personal doctor and cardiologist are firmly against the HCG and T replacement. However, their arguments are less founded in what we know and more in what we don't know. When I began searching online I discovered 99% of what is out there is a sales pitch about T replacement. I didn't fully trust the doctor prescribing the program as she had financial interest. The conundrum for me was, "what questions should I even be asking?".

That's where our resident EMT Excellibus has been a God send. He agreed to engage offline in explaining what I should even be asking in addition to current fitness and dietary information. Science has marched forward since my time in the 70's and 80's. Because of his input, I was able to challenge the doctors, cut through the sales b.s., and get straight answers. In my case, I love the doctor I am working with, but when I started asking for exact numbers, specific targets, etc.. Things got real and I started getting what I was paying for. There was accountability, and it would have taken me months to figure out what I got here in a few days. Brett, you have my sincerest thanks.

Moving forward to today, I am in my second HCG session with the wife. I am 60 days into the T replacement therapy, and I've dropped 45 lbs. I walk 4 miles in the morning, the first 2 in 30 minutes. I swim 1/2 to 1 mile 3 to 4 times per week. I lift 2 to 3 times per week, and walk 2 miles each evening. Perhaps more importantly, my fasting blood sugar is in the 70's to 80's each morning. My A1c was 5.4 this morning. Several months ago I was in a size 50 jean. Today I'm in 44, and they're getting baggy.

I've still got better than 50lbs to go. I sincerely have serious apprehension as to how long I can stay away from the Mexican food places, but I am taking it one day at a time.

This is shared in case the next guy stumbles along and wondering if Type II diabetes can be treated another way. Or, if T replacement is the devil. I can only speak for my journey, but so far, I'm glad I'm doing it.

Next week I have a calcium test and visit with the Cardio doc. We'll see how that all turns out.

And, Psalm 103.


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Re: HGC diet / Type II Diabetes / T replacment / Psalm 103 [Re: HOF] #7222733
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Had been wondering how things are going for you and very glad to read this post up

Re: HGC diet / Type II Diabetes / T replacment / Psalm 103 [Re: kmon1] #7222775
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Originally Posted By: kmon1
Had been wondering how things are going for you and very glad to read this post up


Thanks Kmon. One day at a time, one day...


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Re: HGC diet / Type II Diabetes / T replacment / Psalm 103 [Re: HOF] #7223408
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Flat out awesome man......very proud of you up


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End of discussion and self analysis. Shoot the guilty and move on. Death is the only faithful thing in life.
Re: HGC diet / Type II Diabetes / T replacment / Psalm 103 [Re: HOF] #7224161
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That's awesome, keep it up. Isn't it amazing what eating right and exercise can do. There's no magic pill, just hard work and good choices.


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Re: HGC diet / Type II Diabetes / T replacment / Psalm 103 [Re: HOF] #7227372
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Congrats! Awesome progress.

Re: HGC diet / Type II Diabetes / T replacment / Psalm 103 [Re: HOF] #7229400
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Two quick updates. My annual blood test came back and my doc cut my met for metformin and lysortin in half, kept me on celebrex, and dropped the cholesterol and triglyceride scrips. It is miraculous how much my cholesterol and triglyceride levels dropped.

Now, I fell off the wagon last week and eating no carbs at all, but eating extra meats and vegetables, I put on 9lbs in 5 days. What a nightmare. I've spent this week eating one meal a day and working out as much as I can muster. As of today I'm still 2 lbs from being where I was last week.

Anyway, wanted you to know it's a gut wrenchingrocess of highs and lows. Today, I'm in the fight against my flesh.


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Re: HGC diet / Type II Diabetes / T replacment / Psalm 103 [Re: HOF] #7229571
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the blood test and meds being cut is fantastic. The other well we all have little setbacks from time to time to work through. You have this just keep it going up

Re: HGC diet / Type II Diabetes / T replacment / Psalm 103 [Re: HOF] #7230200
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Glad to hear you got off some meds and reduced others. That's fantastic and great to see your hard work rewarded. As far as the setbacks, they happen. Don't burn yourself out trying to compensate. This is a marathon not a sprint.

Try to start transitioning to less frequent weigh ins. Once a week max. It will screw with your head and motivation.

Re: HGC diet / Type II Diabetes / T replacment / Psalm 103 [Re: HOF] #7234372
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You have to change the way you relate to food. FROM: Live to eat TO: Eat to live

It gets easier, stick with it.

Re: HGC diet / Type II Diabetes / T replacment / Psalm 103 [Re: HogBranch] #7234528
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Originally Posted By: HogBranch
You have to change the way you relate to food. FROM: Live to eat TO: Eat to live

It gets easier, stick with it.



yep. Food is fuel to me. Nothing more 99 percent of the time


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Re: HGC diet / Type II Diabetes / T replacment / Psalm 103 [Re: HOF] #7234633
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Outstanding effort on your part and congrats on the progress you have made. You know you can do it so keep up the good work.

Re: HGC diet / Type II Diabetes / T replacment / Psalm 103 [Re: HOF] #7238961
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Thursday:
Morning, walked 4 miles in 59:56 new best time
Noon, rode recumbent bike 30 minutes
Evening, 3 rounds of weights, swam 1/2 mile, walked 6 miles.

Friday, walked 10 miles

Saturday,
Morning 2 miles
Noon 1/2 mile swim
Mid afternoon, 44 minutes / 15 minutes on recumbent bike
Evening 3 rounds of weights and 2 mile walking.

Lost 54 lbs since Feb. and fasting blood sugar 74 this a.m.

My feet, and knees hurt, but my energy level is increasing. My stamina is noticeable compared to where it once was non existent. In Feb and again in March I struggled to walk a mile and had to deal with blisters. I feel like I'm picking up momentum. Diet is critical as is daily exercise routine.


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Re: HGC diet / Type II Diabetes / T replacment / Psalm 103 [Re: HOF] #7238996
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Congrats on the weight loss. What walking shoes are using? My plantar fasciitis is really hindering my walks. Only getting in a couple miles at a time.

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Jimbo, I have 4 pair of Brooks. I rotate them each use. They are expensive, but they are worth it.

I get where you're coming from regarding the walking. It has bee a long, slow, journey building up the feet and body to handle any distance. I think the swimming and weights are plaYing a bile role in speeding up the fitness and weightloss.


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Hey HOF, Appreciate the info. I'll check those Brooks out. I really like walking at the indoor track at the gym. The wife is such a good cook, she's slowly killing me!

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I get one model of Brooks at Academy for a little over $100 per pair. They have a whole bunch more to choose from on their website.

When I started out I was using the Academy sale shoes for 40 to 50 bucks. I wanted to see what made the Brooks worth twice the money so I splurged. Within 2 weeks I went back and bought another pair my feet felt so much better.


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You can also go to a running store (Run On is one local to me) and the employees will have you take your shoes off and walk around the store. They'll watch which way your feet rotate amongst other things and tell you which shoe is best for you. I did it then bought some online.

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Originally Posted By: Exbellicus
You can also go to a running store (Run On is one local to me) and the employees will have you take your shoes off and walk around the store. They'll watch which way your feet rotate amongst other things and tell you which shoe is best for you. I did it then bought some online.


^^^This for shoes.

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You need to try to work into a shoe with zero drop. Inov-8 has minimal drop shoes, then Altra have zero drop. It can take a while to get used to zero drop, but it's worth it.


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3 weeks ago yesterday the wife and I picked up our new bicycles. I rode 38 miles last Saturday in the Burnin Vernon Race. I finished. Today I rode the 50 mile Hotter than Hell in Wichita. It kicked my butt, I finished.


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I didn't want to broadcast this to the world until it was done for various reasons. First being the wife was home alone off and on and...

My college roommate and I embarked on a Texas to Arkansas bicycle tour two weeks ago. We started in Sherman and cycled to Bentonville, Arkansas. We planned the daily segments to be around 30 miles. Some days were as short as 17 and some were as high as 41. Being old, fat, and never doing anything like this it was difficult to know what we should expect. If you've been following, you know I've been walking, doing light lifting, swimming, and got a bike 6 weeks ago. In preparation for the trip my old college roommate had ridden exactly seven miles on a bike prior to our big adventure. Needless to say, it took us an hour to go three miles before he had to stop and take a break on our first day.

We stayed at cheap hotels, ate diner food, and basically, hurt like we did back in two a days. We visited with folks along the way in tiny towns, remembered how wonderful our fellow man is, and had a blast.

As has become my habit, we we hit the floor each morning around 4 a.m.., had a short devotional, prayed, and headed out before sunrise to beat the traffic and the heat. I'm hoping to do a more in-depth write up for ya'll, but I've got a lot of catching up to do at work and home. I simply wanted to keep those that wander across this post updated.

Of course, one of our first stops was the DAM BAR.


We learned just how tough hills can be on fat guys on bicycles. We hit the park during midweek and owned the place. It was like being back at Church camp.


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Good job! Keep up the new lifestyle!

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It has now been 6 months since the wife and I did our first round of HCG. We just started our third. I also began my second round of HRT pellets this month.

Thus far, I'm holding at about 45 lbs down, and keeping the weight off is the hardest thing I've ever done. Last month we gave up all alcoholic beverages as they aren't conducive to liver function and keeping the weight off. I wasn't a heavy drinker, perhaps 2 drinks a week on average, but I can do without them.

Two weeks ago I rode my bicycle 80 miles. This past weekend I only went 40 because the pinched nerve in my neck has returned. This week I have begun riding my bike to work. It's only three miles and takes me about 10 minutes.

I'm trying to do add a few little lifestyle changes to hold the weight and lose a few more pounds.

Several weeks ago the wife and I began doing YOGA for beginners via You Tube on our big screen television. It was pretty hilarious watching two of us try and stretch and balance, but three weeks in and we can see improvement in our flexibility.

The wife is devouring material about the KETO diet. I believe this is the direction we'll be going in December.

She is finally walking normal after her knee replacement and starting to build a little confidence on her bike rides. Who knew there was a different fun ride somewhere in Texas almost every weekend. It gives her an excuse to hangout with other gals doing working towards the same end.

All in all, at this point I can't say I'd change a thing about the HGC and HRT programs. They aren't cheap, but they work about as hard as you do. My only ongoing problem is my ravenous appetite. I suppose I'll battle this until they plant me in the ground.


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Good for you and your wife!

Have you tried foods like high bulk low calorie types such as celery, carrots, almonds (not necessarily low calorie but your body doesn't typically use all the calories in almonds), etc for giving you the appetite suppression you desire but not adding much in caloric intake?

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