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IMR-4451 rumor, in 6.5 Creedmoor looks to be true. #7217352 07/06/18 07:32 PM
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Ladder tested it yesterday at 500 yards. 140 gr ELD-M.

Where it is showing me the best node is right around 1.0 gr more than an H-4350 node.

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Re: IMR-4451 rumor, in 6.5 Creedmoor looks to be true. [Re: J.G.] #7217364 07/06/18 07:48 PM
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Anxious to see how your final load compares to the 42.4 of H4350...

Re: IMR-4451 rumor, in 6.5 Creedmoor looks to be true. [Re: J.G.] #7217379 07/06/18 07:58 PM
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It's making speed. The three best in the node chronoed at 2785 to 2820 fps, if memory serves. 24" barrel.

Speed is secondary to me. Consistency is first. Of course the faster the better, but I will keep a consistent slower load, than a less consistent faster load.


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Interested to see how well it shoots.


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I was wrong...on anything technical.

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Re: IMR-4451 rumor, in 6.5 Creedmoor looks to be true. [Re: J.G.] #7217583 07/06/18 11:29 PM
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I've already got 5 shot groups loaded for it. I plan to shoot them tomorrow.


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Re: IMR-4451 rumor, in 6.5 Creedmoor looks to be true. [Re: J.G.] #7217598 07/06/18 11:42 PM
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Got 8lbs waiting for my creed. It I may give alpha brass a try. Be interesting to see velocity differences between brass

Re: IMR-4451 rumor, in 6.5 Creedmoor looks to be true. [Re: J.G.] #7217982 07/07/18 02:43 PM
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I've burned a little over 16lbs of it in 7mm-08ai. It's good stuff.


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Re: IMR-4451 rumor, in 6.5 Creedmoor looks to be true. [Re: J.G.] #7218766 07/08/18 07:53 PM
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8 o'clock wind, 2-6 mph, explains the horizontal dispersion.

I cannot explain the flier. hammer



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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
I cannot explain the flier.



Looks like a classic jerk to me...

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Originally Posted By: ckat
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I cannot explain the flier.



Looks like a classic jerk to me...


What? I am?

Yes, quite capable.


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So how do think it will perform out of a 6.5x55 since 4350 is one of the go to powders for it?

Thanks


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It'll do just fine. IMR-4451 is touching H-4350 on the burn rate chart. And IMR-4451 is an "Enduron powder" therefore allegedly very temperature stable, like H-4350.


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Originally Posted By: javman
So how do think it will perform out of a 6.5x55 since 4350 is one of the go to powders for it?

Thanks


Is that a Creedmoor wannabe?

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Originally Posted By: scottfromdallas
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So how do think it will perform out of a 6.5x55 since 4350 is one of the go to powders for it?

Thanks


Is that a Creedmoor wannabe?


Nope more like the 6.5 Creedmoors Great-Great-Great-Great Grand Pappy


lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true
Mainstream news might be fun to watch
Re: IMR-4451 rumor, in 6.5 Creedmoor looks to be true. [Re: J.G.] #7219092 07/09/18 01:28 AM
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Looks good. You may have looked at too many of my groups causing the flyer. bang


Originally Posted by onlysmith&wesson
I was wrong...on anything technical.

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Your problem isn't a flyer. It's inadequate photo editing. My group is much better...



Only kidding. Definitely a good node. Lots of folks on SH are reporting that IMR4451 and RL16 are both good 4350 subs. 4451 is closer to 4350 in burn rate, but RL16 allegedly gets you a few more fps. I've got an 8 lb jug of 4350, so it's a problem I don't have to worry about for awhile.

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This load is making a 140 gr go 2850 fps. Flat primers, though peep


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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
This load is making a 140 gr go 2850 fps. Flat primers, though peep
That's cooking. I was worried about my 4350 load pushing a 140 at 2780.

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Originally Posted By: patriot07
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This load is making a 140 gr go 2850 fps. Flat primers, though peep
That's cooking. I was worried about my 4350 load pushing a 140 at 2780.


Historically I had H-4350 making 2800 fps out of a 24" barrel.


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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
It's making speed. The three best in the node chronoed at 2785 to 2820 fps, if memory serves. 24" barrel.

Speed is secondary to me. Consistency is first. Of course the faster the better, but I will keep a consistent slower load, than a less consistent faster load.
I like your thinking up


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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Speed is secondary to me. Consistency is first. Of course the faster the better, but I will keep a consistent slower load, than a less consistent faster load.


I concur on that statement.

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Stumbled across six 8lb containers of 4350 at my LGS Saturday. He wants $225 plus tax.


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Small or large primer?

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I'm running 4451 out of my creedmoor, loading 42.5 grains, lapua brass with 140 elite Hunter shooting sub 1/2 moa groups.full custom with stiller action bartlein barrel and xlr chassis

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