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Re: Swift AFrames Affecting Accuracy of other Bullet Types [Re: J.G.] #7194044 06/10/18 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG


This will get me flamed. From observation, some that will speak very poorly of Bergers are poor shooters, and/or watched poor shooters try and use them. The old Rem Core Lokt is a great expanding bullet, and what I've seen is the ammo is 8" at 100 yards. Sure it expands reliably, but where in the hell are they going to go?

Is that better than the precisely placed, hand loaded Berger? As far as I'm concerned, no.


Who on earth was shooting these rifles with Core Lokt ammo that gave you the impression they are 8" group type bullets?? LOL! And surly you must have seen this more than once before you would make an assumption like that.

The Core Lokt has its faults and I am no fan boy of them, but I have shot tons of different rifles with Core Lokt ammo and NONE have ever done that bad! hammer

Re: Swift AFrames Affecting Accuracy of other Bullet Types [Re: RedSnake] #7194382 06/11/18 02:06 AM
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Ok, I am making it up.

Believe what you want.


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Re: Swift AFrames Affecting Accuracy of other Bullet Types [Re: RedSnake] #7194527 06/11/18 10:26 AM
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I can believe an occasional rifle that would shoot certain ammo like that but it does not mean that is typical performance for that ammo or that the bullet itself is to blame.


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Re: Swift AFrames Affecting Accuracy of other Bullet Types [Re: RedSnake] #7194563 06/11/18 12:03 PM
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I was culling last year and testing different bullets. Used a-frames, sciroccos, partitions, pro hunters, speer, barnes, woodleighs, etc... I would change after every 15 animals. I noticed no change in impact. I ran a dry boresnake thru the barrel after every 15 animals. Never had a problem.

It is possible to have to do some long range shooting. There are open grasslands and wary animals who will keep moving and putting 3-400 yards distance between you at all times. I have shot one animal in all of my trips that was over 200 yards. A gemsbok at 400. Just could not get closer.

Re: Swift AFrames Affecting Accuracy of other Bullet Types [Re: RedSnake] #7195949 06/12/18 08:42 PM
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Off-topic, but I used to solely use Core-Lokts in both .243 (100gr) and .308 (150 gr) for Mills county whitetails. About 8-10 years ago, suddenly neither gun would group with newly purchased Remington ammo. The .243 was always a 1.5" or better gun, the .308 sub MOA. Now the .243 was a 4" gun and the .308 was over 2". I checked everything on both rifles and switched to Win Ballistic Silvertips; .243 was 1.25" and .308 was back to sub MOA. I've since upgraded the ammo in the .308 and bought a box of Corelokt to use as foulers. For grins, I chrono'd 5 rounds. Through a 24" barrel, only one made the factory claim for FPS, and the slowest was 190FPS below the fastest. I can easily believe FJG's claim.


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Re: Swift AFrames Affecting Accuracy of other Bullet Types [Re: RedSnake] #7196145 06/13/18 12:16 AM
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Core-lokts used to be great. Something changed. I won’t touch them, now.

Re: Swift AFrames Affecting Accuracy of other Bullet Types [Re: RedSnake] #7196686 06/13/18 05:50 PM
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Remington has always had its problems but Cerebrus took Remington right into the dirt. Maybe they can bounce back if they can divorce themselves from Cerebrus.



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