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AR Guys Help? #7180842
05/26/18 11:55 PM
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Help, please? Since I exited the Marine Corps in '92 I haven't really been into AR rifles, more into bolt action sporters, so I'm pretty AR stupid, not up to speed. My BIL builds AR's as a hobby and gave me one as a random gift. Helluva guy. I'm trying to mount a pic rail to the hand guard. I carried it into a gun shop and the guy said, "Oh yeah, that's M LOK mounting system. OK, I buy the parts, get home and try to put it on, watch a little YouTube, and the slots are way narrower than M LOK. What kind of system is this? Or is it a mounting system at all? Nothing seems to fit these slots. I can send pics to anyone willing to help. Thanks in advance,

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Can you post pics of what you have? That's the best way to determine exactly which mounting system you have.


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I'd love to and have tried and failed. It looks like M LOK but it's too skinny to accept M LOK hardware. OK,just checked again. The slots on top appear to be wide enough for M LOK, just not long enough.

Edited to add:. The little teats on the M Lok hardware won't fit the slots in the handguard.

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Far as I know there's Keymod and M-Lok. Could be the guy was confused or doesn't know the difference.




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Originally Posted By: RiverRider
Far as I know there's Keymod and M-Lok. Could be the guy was confused or doesn't know the difference.


That's what I thought,Keymod or M-Lok. Might be a non-mountable handguard. I think I'm getting a M-Lok Styngr for it.

Edited because autocorrect is effing with me.

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Some of the older rails have proprietary rail sections like the older Troy and Samson rails.



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No optic. Just trying to mount a small pic rail to the hand guard for a front sling swivel. It has an A2 stock, that I appreciate, but no front sling mount.


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Originally Posted By: KRoyal
Some of the older rails have proprietary rail sections like the older Troy and Samson rails.



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Yea sorry I reread your post after I submitted mine. What brand of rail is it?


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No optic. Just trying to mount a small pic rail to the hand guard for a front sling swivel. It has an A2 stock, that I appreciate, but no front sling mount.


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Pretty sure it's a Magpul brand front handguard. Weird.


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It doesn't have the little M LOK emblem, so it's not that.


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Added pic to the OP and putting it here as well so it is not missed


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Thanks! Those slots look big in the picture, but they won't accept M LOK hardware. Might be a knock-off?


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The Magpul MOE M-LOK Hand Guard

M-LOK slots at the two, six, and ten o'clock positions for mounting MIL-STD-1913 Picatinny rails or other direct-attach M-LOK accessories

From Magpulís website.

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There are 2 different sizes for M-lock. I found this out too when I bought a M-lock handguard and accessories. The accessories would not fit due to being too big of a nut to fit through the slot.

EDIT: One is MOE and one is M-lock. Both mount the same way

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It's likely a knock off. The Magpul version has both "MOE" and the M-LOK symbol on it.


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Thanks everyone. It does have three M-Lok on top for optics and such, but the rest of the slots are not M-Lok.


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doesn't appear to be anything some fine dremel work wouldn't take care of


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Illl assume with that handguard the rifle has a front sight post, you can get a sling mount that mounts on the front sight.

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I believe that is the moe handguard and not an mlock handguard. The sizes are different! The mounting hardware is a bit different as well. I ran into that issue when I first bought an mlock! The moe rail sections donít fit right and vise versa!

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