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How do you figure the value of a custom rifle? I have a 7mm Mauser AI with a Proof Research carbon barrel, McMillan stock, Remington action, and have forgotten the trigger in it. I do not know the gunsmith that built it and neither did the gunsmith that I got it from. I got the gun for the wife but it is just physically too large for her. I also have Redding dies for it with neck sizer. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks Daniel

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Re: Custom Rifle Value [Re: DLALLDER] #7180241
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Got a photo of a group it has shot?

Figure up the retail price of each part, as well as gunsmithing fees. You'll have to deduct the final talley by a percentage, but I'm not sure how much. Im rhinking to start at 20% less.

Customs never bring as much as someone has in them.



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Jason, when I have done my part it will shoot half inch regularly. Gun has been bedded. Would I be out of line asking $2000 including dies and what brass I have for it? Yes I have targets that I could take pics of but would have to send to a phone. Daniel

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The problem selling customs is generally people have money as they are not cheap

So you need to a) find someone who wants it set up in the way yours is and is looking to save time and hassle or b) lower the price to convince someone to buy yours over what they want


The more info you provide the better, things like shot count matter.

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I've sold a few and lost on all of them.

Now, I'm going Tikka rifles and making them 'mine'. Custom stocks, bolt shrouds, bottom medal, and magazines....still a sickness.

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Originally Posted By: DLALLDER
Jason, when I have done my part it will shoot half inch regularly. Gun has been bedded. Would I be out of line asking $2000 including dies and what brass I have for it? Yes I have targets that I could take pics of but would have to send to a phone. Daniel


$2k would likely be fair to both parties, but be prepared to take less. Also, where you market it makes a differece.



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Re: Custom Rifle Value [Re: Cleric] #7180266
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Originally Posted By: Cleric
The problem selling customs is generally people have money as they are not cheap

So you need to a) find someone who wants it set up in the way yours is and is looking to save time and hassle or b) lower the price to convince someone to buy yours over what they want


The more info you provide the better, things like shot count matter.
Yep. They never seem to bring anywhere near what someone has in them, unless you made some pretty bland choices and can find someone who was looking to get exactly what you have.

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I dont have to sell, would consider trade. If that doesn't work out will keep it. Have a step-son and a son that probably like to have it. Shot count would be a guess. When I got it, gunsmith said it had been fired very few times. I have put approx. 250-350 rds down the barrel.







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lost me at 7mm mauser confused2


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Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
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How about if it was a 275 Rigby???? Buzzsaw, The cartridge is actually the 7x57. I have just always referred to it as the 7 Mauser.

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A couple of years back I got a divorce and liquidated my guns. I had a left handed semi custom with a solid $4000 invested. It was the best shooting gun I ever owned. I sold it on here for $2800. Thatís 70% of initial investment. It sold in just a few days even being left handed. Granted it was a 7-08 not 7mm Mauser but it was before 7-08 regained the popularity its enjoying today. It was built with the best parts available at the time. I donít know if this gives you any help but definitely a point of reference.

Note: the sale was a complete package. Bipod, pelican case, Nosler brass, bullets, dies etc.

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Save it for the sons. There is nothing wrong with the cartridge except it is not the current cool round. If it was a Creedmoor there would be a line to buy it.
If you short sell it for way less than you would like to get you will be pissed and regret selling. Give it to one of the boys and be a hero.

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Originally Posted By: MClark
Save it for the sons. There is nothing wrong with the cartridge except it is not the current cool round. If it was a Creedmoor there would be a line to buy it.
If you short sell it for way less than you would like to get you will be pissed and regret selling. Give it to one of the boys and be a hero.

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MClark, there is only one problem with that! One gun Two sons. I will probably do that though.







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Originally Posted By: DLALLDER
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How about if it was a 275 Rigby???? Buzzsaw, The cartridge is actually the 7x57. I have just always referred to it as the 7 Mauser.


I know but nobody wants one


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A 7x57 has the potential to outperform the 7-08 if it's handloaded to similar pressure. There is NOTHING wrong with that cartridge, and I'd choose it over the 7-08 any day of the week.


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Originally Posted By: RiverRider
A 7x57 has the potential to outperform the 7-08 if it's handloaded to similar pressure. There is NOTHING wrong with that cartridge, and I'd choose it over the 7-08 any day of the week.


Totally agree....I was using the 7x57 in Ruger No 1 as my primary deer gitter back when the 7-08 was introduced.
I actually talked a good friend into a Rem 788 in 7-08 as it was the new Kool aid. Quickly saw it was nothing special ballistically over the 7 mm Mauser so have never owned one to this day.


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I'm sure its a great round, I'm just saying to most who are shopping for a $2,000+ rifle will want 6.5 something, not an old African Cartridge. Just my opinion, the OP asked for it, not what we think about the round.


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I'm sure its a great round, I'm just saying to most who are shopping for a $2,000+ rifle will want 6.5 something, not an old African Cartridge. Just my opinion, the OP asked for it, not what we think about the round.


You never know....probably still a lot of us Jack O ĎConnor disciples left kickin around. cowboy


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Originally Posted By: RiverRider
A 7x57 has the potential to outperform the 7-08 if it's handloaded to similar pressure. There is NOTHING wrong with that cartridge, and I'd choose it over the 7-08 any day of the week.


But it's not a 7x57, he said it's a 7x57AI.

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Can 7X57 be made from .308 Win brass?



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Originally Posted By: JJH
Originally Posted By: RiverRider
A 7x57 has the potential to outperform the 7-08 if it's handloaded to similar pressure. There is NOTHING wrong with that cartridge, and I'd choose it over the 7-08 any day of the week.


But it's not a 7x57, he said it's a 7x57AI.


Then it will easily out perform a 7mm-08 velocity wise

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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Can 7X57 be made from .308 Win brass?


If you did the neck would be real short and have to fireform IIRC

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I don't know how long it has been since I even scanned a "gun magazine" but I think that the 7 X 57 is around 125 years old and probably not the current "rage" but my best guess is that it will get the job done just fine.

Ever hear of a fellow named W. D. M. Bell? It was his favorite elephant rifle. Ivory hunter. Get the book.

The original post mentioned 7 X 57 AI, is this Ackley Improved? This may be a bit of a problem as now you can't use factory ammo. Potential buyers are now restricted to those hand loaders who are comfortable fire forming their own brass, however 100 cases will outlast the barrel.

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I don't know how long it has been since I even scanned a "gun magazine" but I think that the 7 X 57 is around 125 years old and probably not the current "rage" but my best guess is that it will get the job done just fine.

Ever hear of a fellow named W. D. M. Bell? It was his favorite elephant rifle. Ivory hunter. Get the book.

The original post mentioned 7 X 57 AI, is this Ackley Improved? This may be a bit of a problem as now you can't use factory ammo. Potential buyers are now restricted to those hand loaders who are comfortable fire forming their own brass, however 100 cases will outlast the barrel.


You can still get 7X57 factory ammo, AI version just needs fireforming to get the brass.

If the accounts I have read are correct Bell killed most of his elephants with 303 British, 275 Rigby whih is the same thing as 7X57 and the 6.5X54 MS.

I have a 275 Rigby and a couple 7mm-08s no animal will ever tell the difference when shot with either one IMO

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At the end of the day the chambering is really a roll of the dice, IMO. I think most folks who would lay out the cash for a custom usually know about cartridges, and all I really know is that being a 7x57 would be no turnoff for me. It really would depend on whether I really liked the rifle. Chambering does influence my own buying to a certain extent, but I'm sure everyone has their own way of seeing it. And seeing it is key...

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