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Spotlighting Axis? #7172293
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Been seeing ads on FB from an outfitter that guarantees "Trophy" Axis hunts on his high fence ranches. The way he does this is if you fail to take one from one of his blinds during the day, he just spotlights one for you after dark. I've got no problem spotighting hogs or coyotes for varmint control, but would never do it on a deer of any species, legal or not. Your thoughts? Am I drawing arbitrary lines in the sand?



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Re: Spotlighting Axis? [Re: dkershen] #7172300
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For you I can tell it's maybe more of an ethical thing for you. It doesn't bother me all too much, however I would worry more about what's behind that animal since you're hunting at night. So it may be more of the ethics of that hunter on how they look at it when it being legal hunt.

Re: Spotlighting Axis? [Re: dkershen] #7172307
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No, your gut is telling you hunting vs. just killing for $$. Donít see how day vs. night could be called an ďarbitraryĒ line in any sense when it comes to deer hunting.

Itís been pretty much been recognized as poaching under our game laws forever on WTs. For obvious reasons to anyone who knows the first thing about deer. I get it may be legal because exotics are not game animals, but anyone with an ounce of hunterís blood wouldnít give a damn about doing it IMO.


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Re: Spotlighting Axis? [Re: dkershen] #7172341
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Guarantees sort of rule out the 'hunting' portion of the equation.

Re: Spotlighting Axis? [Re: dkershen] #7172343
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Legal, but totally wrong to do it.


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Re: Spotlighting Axis? [Re: dkershen] #7172360
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Originally Posted By: dkershen
Been seeing ads on FB from an outfitter that guarantees "Trophy" Axis hunts on his high fence ranches. The way he does this is if you fail to take one from one of his blinds during the day, he just spotlights one for you after dark. I've got no problem spotighting hogs or coyotes for varmint control, but would never do it on a deer of any species, legal or not. Your thoughts? Am I drawing arbitrary lines in the sand?


Since they said ďtrophy huntĒ... hell no.


I wouldnít sell hunts doing it, nor post the results. It a technique for controlling populations and gathering meat. Iíve done/helped with it, At that point Iím not looking for a hunting experience , Iím just efficiently getting meat. My same thought process when filling MLD doe tags, Iím going to use all legal means to make its as effective and efficient as possible.


Re: Spotlighting Axis? [Re: dkershen] #7172372
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Being that they are not a game animal and are considered exotic. I have no issue with it. You aren't breaking the law. I went a few weeks back after not having shot anything during the day. I didn't have any luck at night either. So you are guaranteed either way.

Re: Spotlighting Axis? [Re: dkershen] #7172379
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I wouldn't do that but I won't judge you for doing it.

Re: Spotlighting Axis? [Re: mattyg06] #7172465
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Originally Posted By: mattyg06
Guarantees sort of rule out the 'hunting' portion of the equation.
Ha, yea this for sure. Not so much "hunting" as being able to butcher your own meat...

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I agree with you Dave.


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Re: Spotlighting Axis? [Re: dkershen] #7172474
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Depends on what type of hunt I'm on. If it's for the meat which I love, I have no problem with it at all. If you like to trophy hunt them that way, to each his own.

The deer is just as dead shot at night as it is during the day. Same experience for the deer on their side of the equation IMO. I'm sure being shot at night sucks just as much as being shot during the day, lol.


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Re: Spotlighting Axis? [Re: dkershen] #7172484
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Its an exotic... they taste better if shot at night

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I wouldn't pay to do it and I wouldn't consider it a trophy hunt, but I got not problem with it.


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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
No, your gut is telling you hunting vs. just killing for $$. Donít see how day vs. night could be called an ďarbitraryĒ line in any sense when it comes to deer hunting.

Itís been pretty much been recognized as poaching under our game laws forever on WTs. For obvious reasons to anyone who knows the first thing about deer. I get it may be legal because exotics are not game animals, but anyone with an ounce of hunterís blood wouldnít give a damn about doing it IMO.


Why is it that night hunting of game animals is poaching? Night fishing isn't? I bet hunting was regulated to a day time affair due to safety issues than anything.


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Iím not a fan of night huniting for much of anything outside of hogs/predators

If your out to get a meat doe or something, then so be it. Same thing with population control measures

No way would i ever shoot anything other than a hog or predator at night and brag about it.

Spotlighting a axis or any other trophy exotic is simply killing it, not really hunting it.

Thatís how I feel about it


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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
No, your gut is telling you hunting vs. just killing for $$. Donít see how day vs. night could be called an ďarbitraryĒ line in any sense when it comes to deer hunting.

Itís been pretty much been recognized as poaching under our game laws forever on WTs. For obvious reasons to anyone who knows the first thing about deer. I get it may be legal because exotics are not game animals, but anyone with an ounce of hunterís blood wouldnít give a damn about doing it IMO.


Why is it that night hunting of game animals is poaching? Night fishing isn't? I bet hunting was regulated to a day time affair due to safety issues than anything.


WT deer and other game animals are vulnerable and easy to kill at night with spotlights. Itís kind of a different game day vs. night. Fishing is different.


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Re: Spotlighting Axis? [Re: dkershen] #7172545
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You can go to a $200/plate restaurant and have them put your dinner in a styrofoam box for you to eat with your fingers in the car, but why would you?

I don't tell others how to hunt, as long as their actions are legal; I prefer to keep the "hunt" in hunting, myself.


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Re: Spotlighting Axis? [Re: mattyg06] #7172549
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Originally Posted By: mattyg06
Guarantees sort of rule out the 'hunting' portion of the equation.


I concur, but honestly what difference does it make day or night. I would not but itís my opinion. Dead is dead.


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Iíve taken axis for at night and have no prob with it. Just after the meat. I would not however choot a trophy axis buck at night but thatís just me.

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Shooting axis at night is fun, but not as much fun as white tail.

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Originally Posted By: skinnerback
Shooting axis at night is fun, but not as much fun as white tail.
roflmao

I've night-hunted exotics multiple times. It's not as easy as you'd think. Not as hard as a day time safari style axis hunt, for sure, but not a fish-in-a-barrel either.

To each his own. confused2

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Originally Posted By: Navasot
Its an exotic... they taste better if shot at night


Why I only gig flounder at night

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Shooting axis at night is fun, but not as much fun as white tail.
roflmao

I've night-hunted exotics multiple times. It's not as easy as you'd think. Not as hard as a day time safari style axis hunt, for sure, but not a fish-in-a-barrel either.

To each his own. confused2


Yes cause blinding an animal with a Q-beam is quite challenging


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What about using Thermal/Night Vision. With the improvements in quality and price I can see those being used for night hunting non-regulated critters, especially if someone is willing to pay.


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Originally Posted By: RattlesnakeDan
What about using Thermal/Night Vision.


They are used pretty regular.

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