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.223 A.I. trainer, switch stock. #7139330
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Being left handed I have to wait 6 months on a stock order, so my gunsmith and I came up with the plan to have a switch stock, instead of switch barrel. Removing scope, barreled action, swapping barreled action and scope for .223 A.I. took 4 minutes 30 seconds.

6.5 Creedmoor 1:8.5" barreled action. Tikka T-3, Bartlein M24/M40 contour, 24" finish. Manners T-4, CDI bottom metal. Nightforce ATACR F-1, 5-25X, Mil-C


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Tikka T-3 .223 action (same action size, different bolt) Bartlein .223 A.I. 1:7.7", M24/M40 contour, 24" finish.

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This photo is rotated 90į counter clock-wise 200 yards, 20 mph 1 o'clock wind, .45" vertical.


Yesterday, in all that wind, I ran it out to 800 yards, only on the 1 MOA targets. Then put the rifle to work for what it was built for, the supported various height barricades. Recoil is next to nothing, and it is extremely fun to shoot! This fire forming load has an 80 gr ELD-M making 2800 fps MV.



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I wish mine took the same mag box I would like to do the same



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Thinking about building a trainer similar to this. Why did you go AI over regular .223 I have read a lot and it seems it's about 50/50 on both sides of the isle.

Re: .223 A.I. trainer, switch stock. [Re: huck18] #7139453
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Originally Posted By: huck18
Why did you go AI over regular .223


Obviously, it shoots great while fire forming, so no problem there.

Once fire formed, more powder added, significant gain in velocity added, allegedly the elevation and wind corrections will match the 6.5 Creedmoor, with 140's at 2800 fps, to 600 yards. I have those memorized. Dee told me to not be surprised at 3000 fps MV, once fire formed. This barreled action will also be a secondary prairie dog rifle.

It is no trouble for me go through a second load development. I am on a rifle range most days a week.

After they are fired one time, I will size and trim. I will look to see if I ever have to trim again, I may not.



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3000fps, going to be making holes in that steel

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Originally Posted By: BigPig
3000fps, going to be making holes in that steel


Yeah, thatís against the rules!

roflmao

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Originally Posted By: BigPig
3000fps, going to be making holes in that steel


Yesterday the only steel it hit was 300 to 800. Then lots of rounds at 400. Because anything less than 400 is too easy. peep



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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Because anything less than 400 is too easy. peep


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peep roflmao


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Re: .223 A.I. trainer, switch stock. [Re: Judd] #7139604
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You can shoot this one Judd. Even without a brake, recoil is more your speed.



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I still would've put a brake on it nuts

But you're right, pretty sweet little setup.


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Originally Posted By: Judd
I still would've put a brake on it nuts


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That is pretty slick right there. If there is a way to do it you will find it roflmao

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It's one of the more entertaining calibers to shoot. Mine wears a brake so it's similar to my match rifle.


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That's an awesome rig!

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Originally Posted By: dee
It's one of the more entertaining calibers to shoot. Mine wears a brake so it's similar to my match rifle.


Couldn't resist going 400 to 800 again today. Before I knew it, I had ran 20 rounds through it. So fun!



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Originally Posted By: 2Beez
That is pretty slick right there. If there is a way to do it you will find it roflmao


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You were a busy man yesterday. You do all that after I left?

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The shooting? Yes.

And sprayed Round-Up on the berms, cleaned the shop, cleaned the welding table, drank a few beers. grin



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Did you repaint that steel that I blistered with those 215 grains of goodness?

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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
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It's one of the more entertaining calibers to shoot. Mine wears a brake so it's similar to my match rifle.


Couldn't resist going 400 to 800 again today. Before I knew it, I had ran 20 rounds through it. So fun!


What I love is how the barrel stays so cool vs what we are used to. That and the ballistics really ain't all that bad either.


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I have not gone past 20 consecutive rounds, but it certainly holds up to 20. Only cooling is reloading the one mag I have. After 20, yesterday, I felt of the barrel from chamber to muzzle, and it was only warm. That's lots of steel to heat up, and less than 25 gr of powder, it just doesn't get hot. I'm sure there is a line, but would it be 30, 40 rounds?



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Originally Posted By: RedSnake
Did you repaint that steel that I blistered with those 215 grains of goodness?


Not yet. I need to, that group is quite poor. peep



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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
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Did you repaint that steel that I blistered with those 215 grains of goodness?


Not yet. I need to, that group is quite poor. peep


Haha. Thatís not a group. That was the left over rounds of that second ladder I loaded and all were varying charge weights

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