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I took last week off to go visit Big Bend and this would be my 2nd time. My first day out I decided to get off the beat'n path and explore. As soon as I did that I ran into a group of elk (2 cows, 1 young bull) and was so surprised that I forgot to grab my phone and take a picture. But it got me to thinking that I thought you could shoot an elk during a mule deer hunt in Big Bend as an exotic? So I researched just now but I didn't see anything. My buddy also saw a mountain lion on day 3 and we were way back in off any roads or trails looking at fossils. Nice place and I look forward to going back.

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You cannot shoot any species in the park without being drawn for a designated hunt of that species.

Elk are considered an exotic and only require land owner permission and access with a hunting license.


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You see them at Big Bend National Park or State Park. If itís the state park that hunt is by drawing. If itís the National Park.....Hunting is off limits.

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I saw them on the National Park.

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If only we could hunt the 1million acres of National Park in Texas...

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Yep that would figure out to be 1 hunter per 10 acres... pretty scary thought.
How many elk would be left on public land if they allowed anyone who had a hunting license open access.


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Originally Posted By: DStroud
Yep that would figure out to be 1 hunter per 10 acres... pretty scary thought.
How many elk would be left on public land if they allowed anyone who had a hunting license open access.



Really, you think utilization would be that high? That would be cool if it was, the other million acres of Texas Public Fed Land thatís open to hunting doesnít have 1 hunter per 10 acres???

States manage wildlife and exotics, not the Fed except NP, NM and NWAís. The state of Texas already administrators several areas with exotics and game animals for sustainable harvest, I donít for see an issue here. We already have specific state cow elk hunts, , opportunity bull elk hunts, auadad, nilgi, Axis etc . No reason we canít add 1,000,000 acres to state draw hunts for deer, elk, java, quail, and hopefully bear some day.

I may be wrong but pretty sure thatís what Texas and the other 49 states do when they want to limit harvest for sustainablilty.

We need hunting opportunities for everyone especially or youth.







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Originally Posted By: Pitchfork Predator
You cannot shoot any species in the park without being drawn for a designated hunt of that species.

Elk are considered an exotic and only require land owner permission and access with a hunting license.
I once applied for a mule deer hunt in which elk were an option; that hunt had elk or exotics as within the permitted game.

But those drawn hunters may be forced/asked to first shoot their deer and then hunt the extra game, as I was on my MD doe hunt in Palo Duro Canyon a few years ago.

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Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Originally Posted By: Pitchfork Predator
You cannot shoot any species in the park without being drawn for a designated hunt of that species.

Elk are considered an exotic and only require land owner permission and access with a hunting license.
I once applied for a mule deer hunt in which elk were an option; that hunt had elk or exotics as within the permitted game.

But those drawn hunters may be forced/asked to first shoot their deer and then hunt the extra game, as I was on my MD doe hunt in Palo Duro Canyon a few years ago.


They can set any rules for what ever allocation they deem appropriate, exotics just mean itís not a tag association on your license itís more of a permitted. If they say only 1 cow elk, itís one cow elk. They say 1 ram aoudad itís one ram aoudad, etc








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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
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I think we could break world records if our elk didnít have to compete against those weak hearted mulies.

smile ani

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I think we could break exotic world records if our elk didnít have to compete against those weak hearted mulies.

smile ani

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I think we could break exotic world records if our elk didnít have to compete against those weak hearted mulies.

smile ani

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Well played, unless they get legislated into being a game animal again smile

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I guess I misunderstood I thought you meant just open up to public hunting and since Elk have no regs you could shoot them like feral hogs.

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Originally Posted By: DStroud
I guess I misunderstood I thought you meant just open up to public hunting and since Elk have no regs you could shoot them like feral hogs.


up hunting the desert is so unique, everyone needs to do it atleast once.

Hunting Sand Dunes for gaint Whitetails on PINS would also be really cool also, 100k acres of really cool unique habitat, and scenery

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Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
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I guess I misunderstood I thought you meant just open up to public hunting and since Elk have no regs you could shoot them like feral hogs.


up hunting the desert is so unique, everyone needs to do it atleast once.

Hunting Sand Dunes for gaint Whitetails on PINS would also be really cool also, 100k acres of really cool unique habitat, and scenery

Being hunted by millions of mosquitoes while hunting whitetails on PINS would not be as much fun as shooting as many elk as you could in the desert. up



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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
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I guess I misunderstood I thought you meant just open up to public hunting and since Elk have no regs you could shoot them like feral hogs.


up hunting the desert is so unique, everyone needs to do it atleast once.

Hunting Sand Dunes for gaint Whitetails on PINS would also be really cool also, 100k acres of really cool unique habitat, and scenery

Being hunted by millions of mosquitoes while hunting whitetails on PINS would not be as much fun as shooting as many elk as you could in the desert. up


that was funny. But the wind normally keeps them at bay... wink

I think TPWD needs to up Mulie tags to three bucks a county

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Never knew Elk even existed in Texas

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Here are two elk that were taken on the Elephant Mountain WMA Mule Deer hunt in January of this year.





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Originally Posted By: DStroud
Yep that would figure out to be 1 hunter per 10 acres... pretty scary thought.
How many elk would be left on public land if they allowed anyone who had a hunting license open access.



I'm at a loss for words on that one. Seriously do not even know where to start.

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Never knew Elk even existed in Texas



more and more every year.


My friend worked for Del Monte up near Dalhart and they were constantly having to shoot them off their irrigated fields. Those were coming over from New Mexico according to him.

Another Buddy hunted the Longfellow this year and they saw herds of 20-30 animals. A Client of mines son killed a big bull ( 370 + ) south of Marathon just a few years ago. They said they have their pick of elk when they get an itch to shoot one.

A lot more elk in Texas running free than you would imagine

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Never knew Elk even existed in Texas



more and more every year.


My friend worked for Del Monte up near Dalhart and they were constantly having to shoot them off their irrigated fields. Those were coming over from New Mexico according to him.

Another Buddy hunted the Longfellow this year and they saw herds of 20-30 animals. A Client of mines son killed a big bull ( 370 + ) south of Marathon just a few years ago. They said they have their pick of elk when they get an itch to shoot one.

A lot more elk in Texas running free than you would imagine


Dalhart is combo CO/NM and KS, but mainly Cimmeron National Grass lands in KS. They have been hell on my pivots for almost 40 years. Okla pretty much fully protected them up until three or fours years ago, when we finally got a season pushed through. I was on a pretty nice bull (300ísh)two years ago and just couldnít close the deal with my bow. They have gotten smart, they disappear from Oct to Jan.

One of our Modís good friends killed a 380ísh outside of Serria Diablo few years back

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So, with all of these elk, where can you readily hunt them on Texas public land? Is it only through draw hunts?

I've looked at the Rita Blanca grasslands website with no luck finding a clear distinction on hunting, and Sierra Diablo is the only draw hunt I see that specifically mentions Elk.

As "easy" as it sounds to go to Colorado, I would still prefer to hunt Elk in Texas, and preferably on public land.


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Originally Posted By: DFWpublichunter
So, with all of these elk, where can you readily hunt them on Texas public land? Is it only through draw hunts?

I've looked at the Rita Blanca grasslands website with no luck finding a clear distinction on hunting, and Sierra Diablo is the only draw hunt I see that specifically mentions Elk.

As "easy" as it sounds to go to Colorado, I would still prefer to hunt Elk in Texas, and preferably on public land.


To get an elk on public lands in Texas is a long shot, at best. Yes, it does happen on occasion but I don't think any of those hunts are advertised as having a realistic opportunity at elk.

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