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My Son is Being Let Go from USAF because of Diabetes #7112299
03/15/18 07:22 PM
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Just found my son, 38 yrs. old, 15 years active duty will be getting a medical discharge some time in the next 6-9 months because he has diabetes, he was diagnosed when he returned from Afghanistan last year. He is a long distance bike rider and is in good shape, has to use an insulin pump. Any suggestions for to follow on his way out. He is an E-6, works on large transports at Dover AFB. Thanks in advance.

Re: My Son is Being Let Go from USAF because of Diabetes [Re: fray] #7120010
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This may have useful information.

https://www.thebalance.com/military-disability-medical-separations-and-retirements-3356969

The one thing I would suggest is also filing the paperwork for a VA evaluation for service-connection (can apply if condition was just aggravated by duty). It makes access to care later a lot easier if the VA rating is granted.

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If he is being medically discharged he will go through the MEB process which is mostly conducted by the VA and the Air Force will use the VAs ratings and findings. If he is found to be unable to perform his duties and found to be at least 30% disabled due to the disabilities that keep him from being capable of doing his job he will be given a retirement meaning he gets the blue ID card and medical and dental. If he is below that 30% he will get a lump sum and be discharged. The process is pretty simple and everything will be explained to him and a lawyer available for any consulting. Either way he wonít receive retirement pay from the Air Force but will get disability pay from the VA amount will depend on combined disability rating.


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Re: My Son is Being Let Go from USAF because of Diabetes [Re: fray] #7122383
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Sapper, I know you know more about this than I do, but thatís complete [censored] that they would do that to somebody after 15 years of service. So he may have to essentially start his retirement over at age 38? Even in my PD, as screwed up as it is, we have a bunch of permanent disability positions for reasons like this.


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Ever spit it out rather than swallow it?

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Enjoy it while you can. One day you might be complaining about NOT getting random pop-ups in the morning. grin
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Originally Posted By: BigPig
Sapper, I know you know more about this than I do, but thatís complete [censored] that they would do that to somebody after 15 years of service. So he may have to essentially start his retirement over at age 38? Even in my PD, as screwed up as it is, we have a bunch of permanent disability positions for reasons like this.
in some cases you can fight it and get a new job that doesnít require certain things more of an admin type job. Thing is the military feels in many cases if you arenít deployable they donít want you. lots of guy have been screwed over. The lump sum is based on yrs of service and base salary. I think they take your last 3 yrs average base salary and multiply it by years served. So 15 yrs would be about 45 grand and a thanks for serving. But if the disability you are chartered for you get all the perks of a full 20 yr retirement mi us money compensation, your only compensation would come from the VA for your service connected disabilities

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We thank you for all of your info. Hopefully I can report back later with the results. fray

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Originally Posted By: SapperTitan
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Sapper, I know you know more about this than I do, but thatís complete [censored] that they would do that to somebody after 15 years of service. So he may have to essentially start his retirement over at age 38? Even in my PD, as screwed up as it is, we have a bunch of permanent disability positions for reasons like this.
in some cases you can fight it and get a new job that doesnít require certain things more of an admin type job. Thing is the military feels in many cases if you arenít deployable they donít want you. lots of guy have been screwed over. The lump sum is based on yrs of service and base salary. I think they take your last 3 yrs average base salary and multiply it by years served. So 15 yrs would be about 45 grand and a thanks for serving. But if the disability you are chartered for you get all the perks of a full 20 yr retirement mi us money compensation, your only compensation would come from the VA for your service connected disabilities


So what happens to the guys with 4 years that lost limbs? What do they get?


Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Ever spit it out rather than swallow it?

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Enjoy it while you can. One day you might be complaining about NOT getting random pop-ups in the morning. grin
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Originally Posted By: BigPig
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Sapper, I know you know more about this than I do, but thatís complete [censored] that they would do that to somebody after 15 years of service. So he may have to essentially start his retirement over at age 38? Even in my PD, as screwed up as it is, we have a bunch of permanent disability positions for reasons like this.
in some cases you can fight it and get a new job that doesnít require certain things more of an admin type job. Thing is the military feels in many cases if you arenít deployable they donít want you. lots of guy have been screwed over. The lump sum is based on yrs of service and base salary. I think they take your last 3 yrs average base salary and multiply it by years served. So 15 yrs would be about 45 grand and a thanks for serving. But if the disability you are chartered for you get all the perks of a full 20 yr retirement mi us money compensation, your only compensation would come from the VA for your service connected disabilities


So what happens to the guys with 4 years that lost limbs? What do they get?
my buddy who lost his leg got medically retired. He had 10 yrs of service. He is 100% combined disability with the VA be t gets no compensation from the Army but did receive an Army retirement so he has the blue ID and all the perks of doing 20 minus monitary compensation. So full medical and dental and what not.


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I plowed mules.
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I did build a cabin. Aka the brokeback shack.

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The only time they may give you Army retirement without 20 yrs is if you are close to retirement like 18 yrs of service. Even when you get Army retirement for 20 yrs you canít double dip. So if you are 100% disable with the VA and full retirement from the Army you canít make more than you last 3 yrs of service base pay average. So if you were making 5K in the Army and you are 100% disabled you first get your tax exempt VA money so around 3300 if married then up to 1700 from the Army per month but it canít exceed that 5K. Many people in the military arenít aware of this and think they will get full pay from VA and their Army retirement.


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All is not lost. All federal/state/county/municipal employers will allow the purchase of credit for years of military service, to be applied to the service credit in that civilian position. It really is not that expensive if done up front, rather than waiting 10-20 years.

Also, military-related disability gives a 5 to 10 point bonus in the federal civil service hiring process for civilian positions.


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Thanks again for the info, no update yet.

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MAke sure to tell him that before he gets discharged to go be seen for anything that has ever bothered him even if not currently acting up. If he feels depressed sometimes, has a knee or tendon that acts up from time to time, has trouble sleeping or ANY other thing. He needs to get everything on record no matter how small.


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Originally Posted By: Nathan at Fork
MAke sure to tell him that before he gets discharged to go be seen for anything that has ever bothered him even if not currently acting up. If he feels depressed sometimes, has a knee or tendon that acts up from time to time, has trouble sleeping or ANY other thing. He needs to get everything on record no matter how small.


I wholeheartedly agree with this. Or he'll be in the same situation as I am right now. VA determined that after being out for 20 years,nothing that I claimed, except for my shoulder, was service connected.

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If he is willing to work in Fort Worth, Lockheed Martin is an excellent employer. I am a hiring manager. Have him send me his resume when he is within 30-60 days from being available to start work (again, only if interested). We hire lots of former military on the program I work on, especially pilots (for non flying billets) and aviation maintenance types, and the program is still ramping up.

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Thanks again for the info, he is progressing in the "checkout" process now. Thanks.

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