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Yíall school me on a good conceal carry weapon...something that wonít break the bank but is thin and compact yet with good power and accuracy. I have a big 357 and a 9mm semi auto. Iím a much better shot it seems with a wheel gun than the semi...
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If you're wanting something small and thin that won't break the bank and have more punch than a 9 I'd look at the S&W Shield in either 40 or 45.


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I know it's an important topic, but this question comes up about 1-2 times a week on here. The right answer for me, may not be the right answer for you. What I would do first, is figure out how you plan to carry your CCW. Once you figure this part out, look at which firearms will fit this type of carry method for you. To help figure that out, I would go to a gun range that rents pistols to try the different models that you think will fit your needs. Often times shooters buy a firearm that they "think" is what they want, but find out that it is not what they really wanted. Trying it out first will help.

I carry IWB in the 3 o'clock position. I carry a G23 in 40 cal, or a G20 in 10mm as my 2 main CCW. My favorite holster is the Comp-Tac Minotaur MTAC for the G23. It fits very well, has good weapon retention (and adjustable) and is very comfortable. I also have the Crossbreed Super Tuck IWB that I like. This holster requires a little more adjusting. I also needed to heat up the Kydex part to increase the retention of the weapon.

But, figure out what methods will work for you, as each person is different in how they carry.



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...donít mean to beat a dead horse on the subject. Jus reaching out in many different directions.
I intend to carry in my pocket or a boot type holster

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You didn't know it but you just put yourself into a stubby .38 special.

Find you a good pocket holster and go.

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Originally Posted By: Brother in-law
You didn't know it but you just put yourself into a stubby .38 special.

Find you a good pocket holster and go.


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Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
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You didn't know it but you just put yourself into a stubby .38 special.

Find you a good pocket holster and go.


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Can't argue that.

I'll throw a wrench in the gears. I carry an XDS every day, unfortunately I sometimes forget it is there when I'm working in the country. They make that pistol in 9mm, just sayin.



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For pocket carry, Glock 36 (45ACP), Glock 43 (9mm), M&P Shield 45 or 9, or Kahr PM9.

Pants need to be loose and slightly baggy to conceal well and also make it easy to draw.

Tight jeans are not a good option for pocket carry.

38 Special, especially from the snubnose length barrels, has such low velocity the bullets do not penetrate or expand well.

Lucky Gunner has a good test write-up on 38 Special, which confirms the need to go to a 3" - 4" barrel to get the velocity up, and even then, the 9mm will provide more reliable expansion.

https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/revolver-ballistics-test/

A 45 is a major step up in power which is a benefit, where capacity is limited. The Glock 36 is 7 shots of 45 ACP, which why it is my go to for pocket carry. Add a Big Dot sight up front, and it is a real defensive tool.

Boot carry is not a great option for access for most scenarios other than perhaps a backup gun.

The DeSantis Nemesis is a nice holster, but the Uncle Mike's cheap neoprene really works well too.

I made a DIY thin leather pocket holster, which I prefer as the leather causes less sweating than the synthetics.

For IWB, the options are almost limitless, thinner is easier to conceal. Glock 19 and M&P ( now go with the Compact 9 2.0) are the two dominant most obvious choices, but there are several really good options now.

IWB holsters - leather is more comfortable to me, others say the opposite.

Crossbreed Super Tuck, Comp Tac, or Milt Sparks (especially the VM2), Bullard or Davis Leather are good.

Stealth Gear, Raven, and on your On Your Six are all good quality. On Your Six is a small shop in San Antonio started by some SAPD officers.

They are less expensive, but make a nice product. Raven is really well made and a bit more refined, and a bit more expensive.

Expect to go through several holsters. Holsters in good condition are easy to sell on ebay.

Ebay is also a great place to look for holsters, sometimes at significant savings from folks trying a bunch.

A wide, very stiff belt makes a major difference in comfort. The Wilderness Instructor belt with a plastic stiffening insert is the best I've tried.

Most of the holster manufacturers also offer well made belts. A saddle shop can make something tailored to your tastes as another option.

Expect to have to experiment until settling on the right combination of pistol and holster.

Also, remember that accuracy and reliability are the most important factors, and cannot ever be compromised.

fwiw - I carry a full-size 1911 Les Baer 45 in a Crossbreed Super Tuck or a Milt Sparks VM2, and occasionally a G36 in a DIY leather holster for pocket carry.

Neither are the most popular choices, but what I have found to conceal, carry, and shoot well for me. Everyone needs to try several and work with them i.e. practice drawing and shooting, as well as carrying, to see which combination is the best all around. Anything you'll actually carry is better than "the best" that sits at home in the safe.

I went through more than ten pistols in a few years and about double that number of holsters.

The more one carries, the more comfortable it becomes. It really bothers me to walk out the door without carrying, and is very noticeable to me.

Having my gear on me is just like carrying a wallet or wearing a watch - not even noticeable now.

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For me it's a glock 43 with the pinky extension on the mag. I was not a fan....till I shot one. Shoot some pistols and see which one you handle the best that you feel you could comfortably conceal with your preferred method of carry.


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Originally Posted By: Brother in-law
You didn't know it but you just put yourself into a stubby .38 special.

Find you a good pocket holster and go.


Yep, get the gun you WILL carry, many aren't committed to carry everyday because its a PITA.

Look at the Taurus 85 lightweight, S&W air weight, Ruger LCR. None will break the bank,

Get some Federal HST, Speer Gold Dot for compact guns. These are loaded with a powder to reduce muzzle flash in short compact guns.

Then get a Desantis FLY holster. You'll be set.

If you like a semi auto, look at the Kimber Micro 380, in the Fly holster. It disappears in your pocket.


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Thanks guys...just the kinda feedback I was looking for

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Since you already have a 9mm, i'd stick with a 9mm. Makes ammo easier. For me it's the P938 Sig or a Kimber micro 9. I've been using 1911 controls for so long they just seem right to me.

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What 9mm do you have?

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Revolvers are relatively expensive these days. It's hard to buy a decent one without breaking the bank. Your best bet is probably one of those Rugers with the plastic frame. I think they run about $500.

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Originally Posted By: Brother in-law
What 9mm do you have?

Ruger P89.....way to big and bulky

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yea, you'll never carry it, good truck/bedside gun.

if you go semi auto, you really have to trust your gun and ammo is gonna work


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Since you like wheel guns, look at the Ruger LCR-357. Works well for my wife and myself.

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Buzz...never been a big pistol guy but lights out with rifles.
From the pistol shooting Ive done it seems Iím more accurate and comfy with a revolver (esp my .357 Colt Python) so thatís the direction Iíll go. From the brands and model numbers info yíall have given me on here I can now go into a gun shop and at least have some info to work with.
Thereís sure some cool pistols out there to choose from. Think Iíll bump my budget up though.

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Worry about the frame you will carry and not the head stamp.
Opinion , if You go semi atleast get a 9mm

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I've carried a Ruger LCR 38 for many years. Generally pocket carry with a sticky holster.

I've tried carrying an SP-101. It rides fine, but sure is heavy.

Most days I carry a Sig P938 IWB with a Vedder holster.

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Originally Posted By: Brother in-law
Worry about the frame you will carry and not the head stamp.
Opinion , if You go semi atleast get a 9mm



That would be worrying about the headstamp.

I carry a .380 every day. Itíll put the same size hole in the guy Iím shooting at as a 9mm, just a little slower. But a 380 is easier to carry, so I carry every day used to carry a .40 and only carried about once a week.


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Whatever you choose, it better be light weight and comfortable, or you wont be carrying it.

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Originally Posted By: Ranch Dawg
Whatever you choose, it better be light weight and comfortable, or you wont be carrying it.

Yep....thatís my main concern.

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Originally Posted By: majekman
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Whatever you choose, it better be light weight and comfortable, or you wont be carrying it.

Yep....thatís my main concern.


It is an evolution. Your first instinct about pocket carry is a good one. Keep it simple. Anything you'll actually carry is better than nothing.

G43, M&P Shield, Ruger, or Kahr are all good options for a starting point. If you like revolvers, look at the ones you'll actually carry and how it will be carried. Over time, try some other things. The choice for the day may depend on clothing choice too. Small, light, and compact in the front pocket is a good starting point. And fwiw - do not put anything else in that pocket. Keys with the pistol could cause a hangup in drawing, or worse an unintended discharge.

I try to avoid negative comments, except on this subject where life or death may depend on it. Avoid Taurus. Their track record for reliability is horrible.

If you are in a life or death confrontation, and had a time out button to pick any pistol from a shelf and have it in your hand and turn the scenario back on, what would it be? Why not carry that?

Reliability is absolutely critical and non-negotiable.


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