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Law Enforcement Officers!! #7082320 02/17/18 03:21 PM
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Do any of you carry a 9mm? Either as Primary or Back up?

If so, what it your "go to" ammo if the SHTF?


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Go to for my 357sig duty and 9mm off duty is Hornady Critical Duty. If in anything shorter than a 4 inch barrel, use Hornady Critical Defense.

Although they look the same, they are designed differently and work best in the designated barrel lengths

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This information may be helpful in making a decision -

https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/





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How about the latest craze of lightweight solid cooper bullets with the spiral (Phillips Screwdriver) looking points?

Many shooters have gone to a "summer" load and a "winter" load.


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Re: Law Enforcement Officers!! [Re: Buzzsaw] #7082385 02/17/18 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
How about the latest craze of lightweight solid cooper bullets with the spiral (Phillips Screwdriver) looking points?

Many shooters have gone to a "summer" load and a "winter" load.


Why? We don’t change our ammo based on seasons, find one that works well in all conditions, like the one mentioned above


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Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
How about the latest craze of lightweight solid cooper bullets with the spiral (Phillips Screwdriver) looking points?

Many shooters have gone to a "summer" load and a "winter" load.


Not a LEO so I won't try to contribute. But summer winter load are you talking about a smaller firearm during the summer for ease of concealment and a larger firearm during the winter because of the thicker clothes? I've heard of people doing this or am I missing something?


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Originally Posted By: Kthnx
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How about the latest craze of lightweight solid cooper bullets with the spiral (Phillips Screwdriver) looking points?

Many shooters have gone to a "summer" load and a "winter" load.


Not a LEO so I won't try to contribute. But summer winter load are you talking about a smaller firearm during the summer for ease of concealment and a larger firearm during the winter because of the thicker clothes? I've heard of people doing this or am I missing something?


Exactly it, I guess the Critical Duty might serve for both seasons

You know us gun people, always looking for an edge or something new


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Don't overthink it Buzz and don't chase the latest trends with such an important decision. BP has a good suggestion and I recall BIL uses Gold Dot. Go with what LEO/FBI uses.


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Originally Posted By: Kthnx
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How about the latest craze of lightweight solid cooper bullets with the spiral (Phillips Screwdriver) looking points?

Many shooters have gone to a "summer" load and a "winter" load.


Not a LEO so I won't try to contribute. But summer winter load are you talking about a smaller firearm during the summer for ease of concealment and a larger firearm during the winter because of the thicker clothes? I've heard of people doing this or am I missing something?


Not an LEO but Winter clothing, heavy coats etc. can fill a hollow point and cause it to behave like a FMJ and not expand.


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9mm on and off

Speer Golddot 147 g2

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He77 BIG FITZ, you know me, I overthink EVERYTHING

I still don't know what I'm shooting in two weeks, got no ammo ready. My BDC turret is not working correctly, maybe I can shoot Chad's Winny .22 for the whole thing


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Our duty ammo is Speer 124 Gold Dots.

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Barnes TAC-XPD is incredibly reliable. It’s the bees knees.


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Originally Posted By: Tff caribou
Barnes TAC-XPD is incredibly reliable. It’s the bees knees.
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Gold dot or Federal HST

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Gold dot

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Originally Posted By: Brother in-law
9mm on and off

Speer Golddot 147 g2



same here


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[quote=SR025]Gold dot or Federal HST [/quote

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Originally Posted By: SR025
Gold dot or Federal HST


Get your head out of your arse


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Both. I carry Federal HST 124gr+P


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Can you still get Ranger T ammo? Or has it gone underground?


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Gold dot or Federal HST


Get your head out of your arse


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Why is this only addressed to LEOs. A lot of cops don’t shoot more than they need to. Lots of civilians put hundreds of rounds through their guns monthly. I’m guessing you’re looking for a reliable self defense rounds after the Barnes hiccup. I’m of the opinion that any defensive rounds from any major manufacturer will have close enough performance (ballistics wise) to any other similar round. Find one your gun likes, shoot enough rounds til you are comfortable with it, and move on.


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I carry Federal HST on duty, Hornady Critical Duty off duty, and I've carried Gold Dots in the past. I would trust my life to any of them.


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I'm not a LEO but I have spent some time testing lots of pistol bullets on various targets including water jugs and pig carcasses.

The top 3 bullets across the board for me is Federal HST, Speer Gold Dot, and Winchester PDX1. The one exception to that is the Speer Gold Dot in 380. Both me and my brother have tested that one and we get inconsistent expansion. For the 380 the PDX1 is my choice.

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