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Which countries manufacture the best, high-quality firearms? #7081076
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I own firearms made in the US, Argentina, and Japan. And while I've often thought it would be neat to own a Belgian-made Browning, I'm not sure the quality would be any better than any firearms now in my safe. I do know Italian-made shotguns can be very expensive, and that some guys seem to have man crushes over any gun made in Sweden.

So then, which country or countries do you believe make the best firearms? Have you ever purchased a particular firearm model because it was manufactured in a specific location?

I have two Winchesters that I purchased because they were manufactured in the company's New York facility before it was closed, and another Winchester because it was made during a brief time in Columbia, South Carolina.

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Well I used to coach junior smallbore and air rifle teams. No one makes rifles that can compete with the Germans like Anschutz, Walther, or Feinwerkbau on the target range.


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The US, or Germany, depending on purpose.


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Austria and US of course, where Glocks come from.


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Italy for shotguns, Germany for pistols and Finland for bolt guns...

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Would add England to the list with Accuracy International, Purdy, Holland & Holland, and Rigby.


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Austria, Germany, United States (some)


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Believe it or not, Turkey and The Philippines.

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Would add England to the list with Accuracy International, Purdy, Holland & Holland, and Rigby.


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Germany and the UK.


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I would say the Czech Republic is up there.

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England and Germany and maybe Italy I think are tied at the top.
USA, Belgium, and Finland tied at #2.
Japan, Czechia, and Russia for #3.

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Originally Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn
Croatia.


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Unfortunately I put the USA close to the bottom, we are all about making cheap guns, selling a ton of them and counting the money. There are some custom shop guns, which are all hand fitted start about $3000 which match up to some German, Italian stuff.

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When we talk about country of origin on some of these manufacterer's we need to be aware that company's like say Winchester has never made anything in New York, but a Winchester knockoff (Kimber of NY & NOT Kimber of California)is made in Yonkers New Yawk of all places.

The Connecticutt River Valley was the home of many US old line name brands and the traditioanl heart of the American Gun Industry. FWIW John Moses Browning was never a manfacturer, but a gun designer, and BACO is a Utah based company because JMB was a devout Morman....and owned by Fabrique Nationalle of Belguim. So...What nationality is a Japanese made Browing X-Bolt? Weatherby same song 3rd verse, Roy was a designer yadda yadda ....and yet Ithaca Shotguns, of Ithaca NY, the M37 is a JMB design, also sold SKB Japanese made shotguns and Tikka LSA rifles....

Glock is no longer exclusively made in Austria, as the Smyrna Georgia USA plant builds the great majority of product for the US distribution. If the Smyrna plant had been even close to being up and running, I would have accepted the Rep Franchise for the Southwest when it was offered to me in ummm December 1988, instead of recc'ding my old friend Dudly Grounds the just fired Weatherby Rep of 22 years who'd lost the line right after Roy died, but I digress. Steyr same way with their Alabama plant.

Winchester's commercial rifle parts are now made in South Carolina & assembled at the plant in Portugal Browning put into operation after to escape the lack of skilled workers in post WW II. Germany. The SC plant is still producing other gun parts for the US Government that meet the required product quality levels for US military weapons.

CZ aka Ceska Zubrovsky sp? is the old Czechoslovakian, nee German, nee Russian, nee Czech Republic BRNO plant under another new name again and still the largest single site gun manufacturing plant in the world, last I heard...so what is the correct nationality of a given peice of product produced before WW II, during or after WWII or today?

Sweden has long had a small but highly skilled gun industry, but I am not aware of any current civilian product being imported into the US today, while the old SAKO & Tikka operations, that were merged in 1984 into the SAKO Rihimaaki plant when the Finnish Government wanted to get out of the commercial side of gun mfg'ing to concentrate on their machine gun production and gently "forced" SAKO to accept the Tikka product line....and is now owned by Beretta ...so is a SAKO/Tikka a Finnish product or the Beretta finished out bolt action rifle using a SAKO reciever an Italian product by right of the brands ownership???

Too many other examples to spend the time and mention... like Miroku (Browning shotgiuns & rifles), Howa (S&W, Mossberg & Weathrerby rifles ) yadda yadda


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Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
England and Germany and maybe Italy I think are tied at the top.
USA, Belgium, and Finland tied at #2.
Japan, Czechia, and Russia for #3.


What is Czechia?


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It's more about the company than the country it is assembled. It's also about price point

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Oh, 'scuse me...there is a firearms manufacturer of note in New York at Illion...Remington still is, at least for the moment, given their current financial circumstances....again. I try hard not to follow anything Big Green does, or not buy any of their products if at all possible.

This goes back to my days in the late '70's & early '80's at the Spt Gds Distributor in Carrollton, when I tried very hard to get ALL Remington products dropped from all 3 of our distributors after an argument with our local rep over his demand that we HAD TO BUY Remington's gun's in the models and quantity's he'd submitted for "our Approval"...or he would not/could not sell us any of their ammunition.

We'd been buying just under a dozen box car loads of ammo every year for the Carrollton location, and wanted to up that allocation committment based on sales demand by the field reps we'd hired the previous fall in South Texas, Arkansas, Oklahoma and northern Lousiana, and the addition of an albeit small 12 man telephone sales group that had been trained at Ellet Bros's in Chapin SC, where they had well over a 100-125 people soliciting business nationally on the phones. Ellet's was the 1st and largest Telephone Sales group of its kind in the US. That Ellet type program was successfully emulated by several other outfits over the next couple years.

The argument came down to my personal hands on knowledge of a local Dallas Dealer buying all of the S'West Rgl J C Penny's 870 & 1100's plain barrel shotguns cheaper than I was buying them at, when JCP dropped their gun dept's nation wide, helping my dealer load & unload hundreds of shotguns at the store's warehouse when the "other help" scheduled no showed. I did not want to buy anymore plain barrel shotguns locally and wanted to pull my inventory needs from one of our sister company's, after that, and switched the final reduced $ committments to other brands, primarily S&W in their new Jap made Model 1000 self loaders and Model 3000's pump guns & jacked up the buy on the cheaper S&W 916 promo grade pump guns.

Just a small sample of the old time Gun Industry distribution wars...and then there was what Remmy did with WalMart and the "No Retail Direct Sales" clause of their Distributor Contract...and why WM is still Remmy's biggest customer.
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England and Germany and maybe Italy I think are tied at the top.
USA, Belgium, and Finland tied at #2.
Japan, Czechia, and Russia for #3.


What is Czechia?
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