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NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn #7055859 01/28/18 04:10 PM
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Shot Show 2018 was awesome! So many great products and so little time!

I will have a full episode posted soon of the whole event.. But first here is a first hand look at the new products from ATN....

Below are some actual stats as well!



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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn [Re: jtprocaddie] #7055977 01/28/18 06:35 PM
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So they are trying to copy the look of the sightmark photon? Well if you can’t compete copy the competition.

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Originally Posted By: SapperTitan
So they are trying to copy the look of the sightmark photon? Well if you can’t compete copy the competition.



Not at all they went with the look and feel of a glass scope for a better eye relief.. Photon has nothing on the technology in this scope.


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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn [Re: jtprocaddie] #7056010 01/28/18 06:56 PM
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So they are trying to copy the look of the sightmark photon? Well if you can’t compete copy the competition.



Not at all they went with the look and feel of a glass scope for a better eye relief.. Photon has nothing on the technology in this scope.
. Ya but does this thing even work as described or they throwing it at the wall and hope it sticks


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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn [Re: KK30RAR] #7056113 01/28/18 09:10 PM
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Not at all they went with the look and feel of a glass scope for a better eye relief.. Photon has nothing on the technology in this scope.
. Ya but does this thing even work as described or they throwing it at the wall and hope it sticks [/quote]


You will have to see for yourself... James Munn himself stated ATN has made some mistakes in the past.. They have listened to their customers and made adjustments and made this model based on user feedback. This is a scope that is going to take the market by storm.


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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn [Re: jtprocaddie] #7056117 01/28/18 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: jtprocaddie
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Not at all they went with the look and feel of a glass scope for a better eye relief.. Photon has nothing on the technology in this scope.
. Ya but does this thing even work as described or they throwing it at the wall and hope it sticks



You will have to see for yourself... James Munn himself stated ATN has made some mistakes in the past.. They have listened to their customers and made adjustments and made this model based on user feedback. This is a scope that is going to take the market by storm. [/quote] I’ll pass no thanks bolt


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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn [Re: KK30RAR] #7056119 01/28/18 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted By: KK30RAR
I’ll pass no thanks bolt


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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn [Re: jtprocaddie] #7056128 01/28/18 09:31 PM
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The real problem is that ATN has consumed all of the available good will they could expect from their customer base. From this point forward, it's pretty much a case of "Show me the money!" Now they have to prove to the public that they are serious about product quality and customer service.


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The real problem is that ATN has consumed all of the available good will they could expect from their customer base. From this point forward, it's pretty much a case of "Show me the money!" Now they have to prove to the public that they are serious about product quality and customer service.

I think this pretty well describes the situation.
We'll see what happens next. It will undoubtedly be interesting to watch.

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Re: NEW ATN X-Sight 4K Pro - First look with James Munn [Re: jtprocaddie] #7056199 01/28/18 10:45 PM
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If ATN was smart they’re build a functional TWS, that they’re prepared to stand behind, on the OFF chance something goes wrong. If they’d do that, the rest would take care of itself . No amount of WiFi enabled, triple redundant core, heat seeking missle capable, magic leprechaun included , marketing schemes will get them out of the hole they’ve dug for themselves. They obviously make money, because they’re still in business. But if they want to be taken seriously, they need to act accordingly. Took a new guy out last night, he asked why we had everything exact a THOR . He was thinking about buying one. I told him MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. I’m pretty sure some vendor will get a call this week, from him, to order a pulsar.... at this point, they seem to be selling to folks only interested in lowest price...... all opinions above are just that. Take it for what it’s worth

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The problem with ATN is the design and build the x sight in a lab and never take it into the field to expose issues before releasing to public. I was an early user of the original X and was part of a beta test team for ATN. Time after time they did not listen to our feedback and just pushed the next release. If they would just focus on a scope that had record capabilities and not all the looky here garbage they would be miles ahead. I still use my X but it is not a plug and play device and I have used the latest version too and feel the same way.

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I think the scope is interesting for day use. I could say getting one for a new hunter to record first shots and as a teaching tool

But with atn I don’t trust them. The “mistakes” involving screwing customers and lying to them and offering nothing in return.

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If ATN was smart they’re build a functional TWS, that they’re prepared to stand behind, on the OFF chance something goes wrong. If they’d do that, the rest would take care of itself . No amount of WiFi enabled, triple redundant core, heat seeking missle capable, magic leprechaun included , marketing schemes will get them out of the hole they’ve dug for themselves. They obviously make money, because they’re still in business. But if they want to be taken seriously, they need to act accordingly. Took a new guy out last night, he asked why we had everything exact a THOR . He was thinking about buying one. I told him MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. I’m pretty sure some vendor will get a call this week, from him, to order a pulsar.... at this point, they seem to be selling to folks only interested in lowest price...... all opinions above are just that. Take it for what it’s worth
anytime I see someone ask first r a budget thermal or NV recommendation it ATN lol. They are bottom feeders.

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Not at all they went with the look and feel of a glass scope for a better eye relief.. Photon has nothing on the technology in this scope. Ya but does this thing even work as described or they throwing it at the wall and hope it sticks



You will have to see for yourself... James Munn himself stated ATN has made some mistakes in the past.. They have listened to their customers and made adjustments and made this model based on user feedback. This is a scope that is going to take the market by storm.


You are compensated by them to say that...

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That last setup makes the FN Scar look small.....


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That last setup makes the FN Scar look small.....
what you don’t want your optic to be as long as your weapon? Lmao. What a joke of a product.

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That last setup makes the FN Scar look small.....
what you don’t want your optic to be as long as your weapon? Lmao. What a joke of a product.


I just can’t imagine trying to hunt from a blind with that setup, I’ll need to install full size windows


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If ATN was smart they’re build a functional TWS, that they’re prepared to stand behind, on the OFF chance something goes wrong. If they’d do that, the rest would take care of itself . No amount of WiFi enabled, triple redundant core, heat seeking missle capable, magic leprechaun included , marketing schemes will get them out of the hole they’ve dug for themselves. They obviously make money, because they’re still in business. But if they want to be taken seriously, they need to act accordingly. Took a new guy out last night, he asked why we had everything exact a THOR . He was thinking about buying one. I told him MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. I’m pretty sure some vendor will get a call this week, from him, to order a pulsar.... at this point, they seem to be selling to folks only interested in lowest price...... all opinions above are just that. Take it for what it’s worth


800 for this and a sig thermal is 1100...

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In a couple more years ATN will have caught up with technology from a few yrs ago lmao

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You are compensated by them to say that...


I am a Pro Staff member yes, however I am not paid. I also do not promote products I do not believe in.


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Originally Posted By: SapperTitan
In a couple more years ATN will have caught up with technology from a few yrs ago lmao


Designed it like a glass scope this time for better aesthetics and more versatility with mounting and a better eye relief... the technology and clarity blows away any other digital scope out of the water. I would put it up to any digital scope with money down to bet.

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When you add the laser range finder to the front, yes it can be a little long. But that is a removable aspect.. But I would say turning your scope itself into a laser range finder is worth the look of a long range scope haha. Same goes for the rubber eye piece that really is only needed to reduce back light for night vision.

3 Inch display makes a world of difference.

But then again the people will always find something to bitch about hahahaha

This blows away all other digital night vision scopes in it's class and all you can do it say is its long lol

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You are compensated by them to say that...


I am a Pro Staff member yes, however I am not paid. I also do not promote products I do not believe in.

Of course not wink


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When you add the laser range finder to the front, yes it can be a little long. But that is a removable aspect.. But I would say turning your scope itself into a laser range finder is worth the look of a long range scope haha. Same goes for the rubber eye piece that really is only needed to reduce back light for night vision.

3 Inch display makes a world of difference.

But then again the people will always find something to bitch about hahahaha

This blows away all other digital night vision scopes in it's class and all you can do it say is its long lol


I’ll add some more...prolly doesn’t work as advertise, will require multiple firmwares to reach advertised features and will be ready “soon”

Until it’s actually in someone’s hands that is really neutral I will not even entertain it

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Why would we take your word for it, JT? Who are you?


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Why would we take your word for it, JT? Who are you?
the guy who shoots antlerleas bucks in the late season lol.

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