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Which progressive reloader #7049511
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Looking to buy a progressive reloader for mainly doing 9 mm. Which one out of A Dillon 650 or hornady lock n load should I get and why? Thanks

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My 2 cents

A) run the numbers on 9mm reloading. Between brass sorting, cleaning and press time I can pretty much buy 9mm ammo. Not sure itís worth reloading

B) if you are going to switch calibers frequently i would get the Dillion because Of the tool head. If you occasionally switch calibers Hornady should be good to go. (Itís what I use)

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+ 1 what Cleric said. IMO, if you reload 9mm, you better shot A LOT to make it worth while. Or, if there is a certain bullet and bullet speed you need, then it worth it.

A dillon 650 will work fine. Changing calibers, IMO, is easier on a Hornady LNL, once you have the dies set up. If you plan to keep it set up only for 9mm, go dillon. If you might want to load rifle ammo with it, go Hornady. I run 3 Dillon 1050's, tricked out, as my progressive presses for my blk out and 308 bulk ammo. The 1050 is the cats meow!



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The 1050 is nice. But I head calibers changes are more time intensive

To clarify the lnl is easy to caliber change because all you need is the sleeve. I do change overs pretty easily with mine. If I could spend the money and get the toolhead i would do that as I think itís easier. But you have to spend some money on tool heads and powder throws to get the benefit.

The other lnl advantage is the fact that they are sold in a lot more places. For example I got the die quick change sleeves in the cabellas bargin cave for 30% the normal price

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^^ Yes. I saw a buddy change a LNL from 223 to 40 cal in about 2 minutes time. He had the dies already set from previous, and it was fast. I hate caliber change overs on the Dillon's, especially if I have to change out the feed plate or primer system from large to small, small to large. That's why I have 3 of them. One for 308, 270, 25-06, one for 10mm and 40 cal, one for 223 subs and 300 blk out.



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Wife and I shoot idpa so would be loading lower recoil rounds to shoot, so hornady lock and load would be the better of the two then? I would also probly use it for 223 also

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Ok, yes, for high volume IDPA, either press will work for you. You will want to get a case feeder, so price that out. Either press will work for you. I would lean more towards a LNL in comparison to a 650. I feel the LNL is a little more solid. Plus, on the 650, the primer is not supported as long in the up stroke, and I would get a lot of primers in sideways or folded on the edges.



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Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
Ok, yes, for high volume IDPA, either press will work for you. You will want to get a case feeder, so price that out. Either press will work for you. I would lean more towards a LNL in comparison to a 650. I feel the LNL is a little more solid. Plus, on the 650, the primer is not supported as long in the up stroke, and I would get a lot of primers in sideways or folded on the edges.


When pricing out check out the alarms that you can add. When I started reloading I would run out of primers without realizing it. I added a little visual check to make sure I had enough primers. Also +1 on case feeder but donít start with it imo if you are new to reloading. Get a couple thousand run off before adding it.

I would be surprised with the amount of matches someone doesnít commercially make that ammo.

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Used to buy 9 mm 147 grain subsonic from stand 1 armory and they are now out of business, figure I can reload my own for cheaper, have a little experience loading from a single stage and have all the stuff to do it just never used or been around a progressive, thanks for the info

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Check out ultimate reloaded. They have some great videos highlighting presses

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Well I bought the hornady and got it put together this evenin I'll figure out the rest later. What are the best lead cast coated bullets for the money and what powder do y'all suggest, seems like I hear titegroup a lot for the powder

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I used to us precision delta for handgun bullets

But powder I donít remember what I used havenít reloaded pistol in years frown

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N320 is one of the most popular for light recoil loads.
I have had good luck with Acme and Black Bullets


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Originally Posted By: The rooster
Well I bought the hornady and got it put together this evenin I'll figure out the rest later. What are the best lead cast coated bullets for the money and what powder do y'all suggest, seems like I hear titegroup a lot for the powder


You better watch Highboy 76 vidieo on the hornady lnload.
You also will find video how to coat you own bullets.
I cast my own pistol bullets.
The only thing that made me buy a Dillon is their fantastic warenty the will fix any loader that have built.
Hornady has orphaned their progector no part or service, the previous loader their warenty a lawyer will love.

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Blue bullets and titegroup are pretty popular for 9mm USPSA shooters. I shoot CFE pistol, but TG does burn cleaner with light loads.

I'd personally load up 147gr for handgun competition, but everyone has their own preference.

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I'm a Load-Master guy, own four of them. Run them full auto with case and bullet feeders. Bullet feeders are not available with for the 25 Auto, 30 Carbine, and 7.62x39.



The bench the Load-Masters are sitting on serves as a storage bench. I have the Lee bench plates mounted in a number of locations on the two large benches in my reloading room and another on my bench in my garage. I move them where I need them.


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Oops, should have added that I reload with cast bullets with all the cartridges mentioned on the progressives. I use Rooster Jacket coating on the 25 & 32 Auto, no other lube. The 380 Auto and above, I use White Label Lube's 2500+ and then coat it with Rooster Jacket. The Rooster Jacket is easy to apply and provides a hard finish that keeps the bullets from being "sticky". Rooster Jacket is available through Buffalo Arms or MidwayUSA.

The Load-Master on the left was free; a fellow got mad at it and almost the same with the 7.62x39 press, just a few bucks. I just haven't had any problems with them once I stopped watching videos, and followed Lee's instructions to the letter. I was given that first press in 1995, and have been going strong since. I've kept everything up to date; specifically over twenty plus years, there have been three generations of priming assemblies, went from the Auto Disk to Auto Drum, and two generations of bullet feeders.


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