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Why I don’t trust cup and core bullets #7028625 01/07/18 10:49 PM
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Shot a doe this weekend. Neck shot with a 243 win 100 grain Sierra Prohunter less than 100 yards. Perfect broad side shot entrance dead center of neck, bullet went in hit bone and blew out top of neck did not break the spine, fortunately she fell down and bled out. Have used these before without issue. I like a bullet I can trust to work every time. Had I taken a body shot and hit a shoulder it may have never penetrated the chest cavity. Long live partitions! grin
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Re: Why I don’t trust cup and core bullets [Re: redchevy] #7028628 01/07/18 10:52 PM
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Obviously, you need to move up to a .338 WinMag.

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Re: Why I don’t trust cup and core bullets [Re: redchevy] #7028637 01/07/18 11:00 PM
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223 and a 60 grain partition would have made it through grin


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Re: Why I don’t trust cup and core bullets [Re: redchevy] #7028639 01/07/18 11:01 PM
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A 6.5 Criedmoor would never have done that.
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Re: Why I don’t trust cup and core bullets [Re: redchevy] #7028664 01/07/18 11:14 PM
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Redchevy, I just tried to order some 60 gr Partitions, but all the places I tried were out of stock.

I just worked up a load with the Partitions (I had most of one box) and will try them out on some pigs. I’ll be stingy with them till I can get more.


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Re: Why I don’t trust cup and core bullets [Re: redchevy] #7028699 01/07/18 11:36 PM
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Wait, so she wasn't dead?

I don't think she'd be deader with partitions nuts


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Re: Why I don’t trust cup and core bullets [Re: redchevy] #7028710 01/07/18 11:40 PM
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I’d be pretty upset about that neck roast, too.

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Shot placement was too far from the brain stem. peep


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Re: Why I don’t trust cup and core bullets [Re: redchevy] #7028778 01/08/18 12:30 AM
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Totally ineffective, back to drawing board.

Re: Why I don’t trust cup and core bullets [Re: Sneaky] #7028786 01/08/18 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted By: Sneaky
I’d be pretty upset about that neck roast, too.

Neck = sausage meat or a good place to put a bullet.


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Re: Why I don’t trust cup and core bullets [Re: redchevy] #7028806 01/08/18 12:49 AM
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Point isn’t that the deer isn’t dead, it is if I would have taken a shoulder shot and hit the front leg and the bullet hit bone and changed course like that and just rolled up the shoulder blade no vitals would be hit and it would probably be a lost animal.

They do what they are suppose to some of the time or part of the time but if you hit bone it’s a gamble.


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Re: Why I don’t trust cup and core bullets [Re: redchevy] #7028826 01/08/18 01:03 AM
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I think every doe I've ever shot in the brain stem has been with an A-max. Maybe 20 by now. Every time the main breaker was switched off, dead before they hit the ground.


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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
I think every doe I've ever shot in the brain stem has been with an A-max. Maybe 20 by now. Every time the main breaker was switched off, dead before they hit the ground.


Reminds me of that 200 plus pound hog I shot two Fridays ago, right behind the ear and out the other with an Accubond and leaving a pierced ear on exit. clap

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Re: Why I don’t trust cup and core bullets [Re: redchevy] #7028849 01/08/18 01:19 AM
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Bullet tumble from hitting something on way to target?


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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
I think every doe I've ever shot in the brain stem has been with an A-max. Maybe 20 by now. Every time the main breaker was switched off, dead before they hit the ground.

Sure this one did to, we all know however not all shots are in the all mighty brain stem.


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If you dont want to mess up neck meat, don't aim at neck meat.


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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
If you dont want to mess up neck meat, don't aim at neck meat.

I shot at the neck precisely because I think neck meat on a doe is not worth much anyway, sneaky is the one with the love affair with neck roast, I’ll pass.


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Bullet tumble from hitting something on way to target?


Was shooting in the wide open nothing there to hit.


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Yes, you could call it a love affair. My wife can cook a mean roast with a deer’s neck. I don’t like seeing them explode in that manner.

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I have shot several deer in the neck, shoulder and chest with the Prohunter 150 gr in a 30-06 and never had one not exit after hitting bone. It's been 17 years since I used that rifle, maybe they have changed.

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Originally Posted By: redchevy
On a good day my wife could make hamburger helper.


I’d probably shoot them in the neck, too, then.

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Originally Posted By: fmrmbmlm
I have shot several deer in the neck, shoulder and chest with the Prohunter 150 gr in a 30-06 and never had one not exit after hitting bone. It's been 17 years since I used that rifle, maybe they have changed.


Not a 30-06 and not a prohunter, but I have had similar instances with larger bullets. Few years ago I shot a 150 or so lb boar on the trot with my 270 and 150 grain hornady interlocks. Hit the front right shoulder broad side, broke the on side leg but turned and followed the rib cage into the guts. Hog never fell and started running. Had I not got another round in him probably never would have found that one either.

I have been mostly happy with the prohunters up till now, but there is a reason I have a box of 100 grain partitions waiting on the bench. Will have to tweak my partition load a little if I can as it was the worst shooting of the three I have tried. So far the sierras shoot best followed by the hornady hpbt's and last the partitons, but they are all easily hunting acceptable.


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Hundreds and hundreds of deer i’ve shot over the decades and every last one was shot with cup and core bullets. From the little deer in the Texas Hill Country to the larger ones in South Texas and the big ones in eastern Louisiana, they all died. Same with the hogs in Texas. I shoot em in the lungs. I’ve tried to think of the deer I shot and lost, and I can think of three. (Probably, if my brothers and cousins were here, they’d ‘help’ me remember a few more.) :-)

I will say that my cup and core Nosler BTs are not making it all the way through the 150 to 200 pound hogs. And, I will say that if I ever run out of bullets, i’ll start buying Accubonds.


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